Rules for 13 November 2004

Martin Lund, sent 16 November 2004 to the l5r-ccg mailing list, the l5r-useful list

A rules digest from the L5R CCG rules team, copied from the mailing list archive for Oracle of the Void. The askers' names are left out. Rulings are as they stood on this date; later rulings, the rulebooks and the Rules Archive may differ.

Your Rules for Saturday, November 13, 2004

Rules Question

Cavalry Reserves (Web of Lies) is a Cavalry card under the keyword rule, correct? Is it still considered an infantry follower, as far as the Cavalry maneuvers segment goes?

The Keyword Rule is the only rule applicable. It is a Cavalry card, and thus it follows all the rules for Cavalry cards.

Question..Broken Dawn Combo? [RULES]

Text of the card is this. Unique. Isawa's Last Wish Inexperienced. While this card is bowed all other players have the ability "Open: Once per turn, target a card other than a Wind, a Sensei, or a Ring. Remove it from the game."

Now here is the combo,

Eclipse.

Limited: Bow this Shugenja: Target a card. Until this Shugenja is unbowed or leaves play, actions on the target may not be used. This Shugenja may remain bowed.

What is to stop me, from bowing the Last Wish Inexperienced and then casting Eclipse on the Last Wish Inexperienced to prevent others from using the bowed Last wish ability?

Abilities bestowed / created - by - cards are not the same as abilities - on - cards. This is the same situation as the actions granted by Brutal Confrontation - they are neither on the cards nor played from the cards. The situation is similar with Yogo Towers as well - the bowing ability is on the Personalities, not the Stronghold.

The best example of the difference I can see is comparing Direct Assault and Archer Squad:

Direct Assault: Ability is on the card itself.

Archer Squad: Ability is - not - on the card itself.

To insulate the Last Wish from itself, you have to make it untargetable or make sure it straightens before anyone blows it up.

Revealing SH, sensei and winds

Stronholds, winds and senseis reveals at the same time. So, What hapens if I reveal at the same time K Bayushi, two winds and Gozoku sensei? What effect comes first, if any?

You get told that you can't do that. You have to arrange a legal set-up to begin the game. There is no game timing issue. If anything about your set-up is illegal, you can not proceed with the game. At that point, you're just stalling.

Post-errata, Kyuden Bayushi doesn't even give you the option of revealing anything but Two Winds if you play with it anyway.

That should cover everything unrelated to Web of Lies for Saturday. If I missed your question, please repost it with the flag [RULES] as part of your Clear and Distinct subject line. I'll get back to you at the first opportunity.