Rules for 29 April 2004

Martin Lund, sent 2 May 2004 to the l5r-ccg mailing list, the l5r-useful list

A rules digest from the L5R CCG rules team, copied from the mailing list archive for Oracle of the Void. The askers' names are left out. Rulings are as they stood on this date; later rulings, the rulebooks and the Rules Archive may differ.

Rules for Thursday, April 29, 2004

Where the Kami walk and Strategic Crossroad and Heavens Wrath

Okay... IF I cast heavens wrath while Where the Kami Walk and sent the Fire Shug and someone else home with two people opposing them, then bring the Shug back into battle using Stategic Crossroad would he beable to use Heavens Wrath again?

Where the Kami Walk says, "Your Shugenja at this battle need not bow to cast Spells or Kihos. No Spell may be cast more than once during this battle."

I think that would exclude him from using that copy of Heaven's Wrath again during that battle, anyway.

Fushin Question

If two Fushins are in play (with Egg of Pan Ku), how many Personalities have to be bowed to play Political Action cards ?

Two. Each Fushin is self-referential, and each one tacks on an additional cost. That makes for two additional costs, which must both be met.

Rules Question (JEFF)

The bit that concerns me is the "playing that Action Card is considered to be bringing a Shadowlands card into play". By the timing wouldn't it be "you played a card & it gained Shadowlands after entering play"? Thus rather than "bringing a Shadowlands card into play" you "brought a card into play that became Shadowlands". The distinction is important for House of Tao players who might want to Egg a Shadowlands personality.

I can't do much about the ruling in the Archive: "Any single card or action that brings a card into play and gives it the Shadowlands trait is considered to be "bringing a Shadowlands card into play" regardless of the exact relative timing of the two effects." (Accumulated Rulings, "Entering Play"

Egging a Shadowlands personality will count as "bringing a Shadowlands card into play" and cause you to flush all your Rings.

Lotus at dusk and extra actions

Well, it seems that is not totally exact. The Lotus can respond to the action you use to play it. So, for BoT : *Play Lotus at Dusk *Use the rulebook extra action : put the blade of thorn in play *Use the extra action granted by BoT : Fear3 *Use the Lotus at Dusk extra action *Give your opponent...

I just want to confirm that this is the way Lotus At Dusk + Blade of Thorns works out.

Rules: Shadowed Tower and Political Actions

When is an action considered to have been played? This is in reference to Shosuro Mikado/Shadowed Tower and Storm Heart. If I use Storm Heart, do I use Mikado's/ST's reaction before or after the duel resolves?

After all the targeting and cost payments and Reactions they trigger, but before you resolve any effects of the Action.

Secondly, what happens if I recycle a political terrain into my deck with Shadowed Tower? At what point does it get recycled? Immediately after it's put into play or after it has resolved? If I recycle a terrain into my deck, do its effects still occur or has it left play?

Well, the effect it produces is to shuffle the card back into your deck instead of discarding it when the time comes to discard it. Terrains aren't discarded immediately after being played like regular Action Cards, but they are discarded when they are destroyed during Battle Resolution or by an Effect. Basically, the first time the Action card in question will be discarded, shuffle it back.

That looks like it for Thursday, April 28, 2004. If I missed your question, please repost it with the flag [RULES] in the subject line.