Rules for 10 December 2003
A rules digest from the L5R CCG rules team, copied from the mailing list archive for Oracle of the Void. The askers' names are left out. Rulings are as they stood on this date; later rulings, the rulebooks and the Rules Archive may differ.
Greetings,
More Egg Questions...
a Ratling player (Tch'Tch Warrens) who sees an egg in every discard pile. Can he grab each Egg (over time) and have them all in play at the same time eventually?
Yes.
And when each Egg dies, does it count as a personality in the Ratling's discard pile?
Yes.
Kyuden Ikoma Timing
Player A makes a Ranged Attack and wants to increase it with the Reaction from Tsuruchi Technique ("when making a ranged attack"). At what point is the trigger for Kyuden Ikoma or Faith in my Clan (against the Ranged Attack, not against the Tsuruchi Tech)?
After the action is announced, targets selected, and costs paid, and, as Jeff said earlier, "[Kyuden Ikoma] has to be played when the action *begins* to resolve" (my emphasis). In other words, we're at a point where the action starts to resolve, but *has not produced any effects*.
The confusion here is that for The Face of Fear and Tsuruchi Technique are not responding to an action (unlike Kyuden Ikoma or Faith in my Clan). They are responding to effects. These particular Reaction cards are confusing because most cards that make Fear or Ranged Attacks have only *one* effect in the action.
Imagine a card said, "Battle: Give a opposing Personality a +X Force bonus. Then, bow one of your followers to produce a Ranged 3 Attack on that card." The card has two effects.
You'd announce the action, pick targets, pay costs.
Now you'd use Kyuden Ikoma -- before any effects happen.
The force bonus then resolves. I hope it's clear that Kyuden Ikoma can't step in at this point! You've already produced an effect, so you can't cancel the action between the two effects. You haven't produced a Ranged Attack yet, so you can't play Tsuruchi Technique.
Then you'd have to resolve the Ranged Attack. Here's where you get to play Tsuruchi Technique -- while you're generating this effect.
I think this example makes it clearer why Kyuden Ikoma will always be played before The Face of Fear or Tsuruchi Technique.
Based on the Face of Fear ruling, Kyuden Ikoma or Faith in My Clan must be used before Tsuruchi Technique can be played, correct?
Correct.
If the trigger for Kyuden Ikoma and Tsuruchi Tech is not the same, why so? Both seem to become active when the action resolves. Neither says "before an action resolves".
Because one's reacting to an action; the other is reacting to an effect.
I hope this helps -- this answer took a while to write! :)
No Pen + Paper
Should Zen stop issuing rulings on cards _you_ don't have in _your_ deck?
Ooooh! Can I? It would give me more time for Christamas shopping. :)
Zen Faulkes! * Crab Clan Scholar * Unaligned Deputy Rules Guy