considerations and creating order/kalani's landing

L5R CCG Rules board, 18 September 2012 to 19 September 2012

A topic from AEG's L5R CCG Rules forum, copied for Oracle of the Void from a copy of the forum saved in October 2015, so pages it didn't save are missing. Players' names are left out; the rules officials are named. Rulings are as they stood on these dates; later rulings, the rulebooks and the Rules Archive may differ.

A player, 18 September 2012

I play considerations targeting my tactician and give another personality +3 force and the negation of the next action that targets them. My opponent hits my 2 personalities with creating order then reacts with kalani's landing giving the personality the was considerationed -2 gold cost. Does the creating order target him first or the reaction from kalani's landing i.e. which effect gets negated thanks.

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consideration: Open: Choose your performing unbowed Tactician and target another of your Personalities: Give the Personality +3F. After the next time this turn another player's action targets him, negate its effects.

Kalani's landing: Reaction: After an action is announced, target a card (in play): Give it -2 Gold Cost

creating order: Battle/Open: Target one or two Personalities: Either negate all current and new Force bonuses and penalties on them from actions, or straighten their units

Jon Palmer (rules official), 19 September 2012

I play considerations targeting my tactician and give another personality +3 force and the negation of the next action that targets them. My opponent hits my 2 personalities with creating order then reacts with kalani's landing giving the personality the was considerationed -2 gold cost. Does the creating order target him first or the reaction from kalani's landing i.e. which effect gets negated thanks.

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consideration: Open: Choose your performing unbowed Tactician and target another of your Personalities: Give the Personality +3F. After the next time this turn another player's action targets him, negate its effects.

Kalani's landing: Reaction: After an action is announced, target a card (in play): Give it -2 Gold Cost

creating order: Battle/Open: Target one or two Personalities: Either negate all current and new Force bonuses and penalties on them from actions, or straighten their units

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In this case, the Kalani's Landing reaction will take effect first and "use up" the negation of Consideration, and then Creating Order's effect will be applied.