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just want an offical ruling on this.
Masaya - Ronin • Samurai 3f/3c 0HR 6G 1PH Open: If Masaya is face-up in one of your provinces: Bring him into play, paying all costs and paying 2 less Gold. Before the turn ends, put him on top of your Dynasty deck.
say I bring masaya up in the open phase, and he gets cursed reliced out of the game. is he gone for good or does his text bring him back and put him on top of your deck?
just wondering, thanks.
just want an offical ruling on this.
Masaya - Ronin • Samurai 3f/3c 0HR 6G 1PH Open: If Masaya is face-up in one of your provinces: Bring him into play, paying all costs and paying 2 less Gold. Before the turn ends, put him on top of your Dynasty deck.
say I bring masaya up in the open phase, and he gets cursed reliced out of the game. is he gone for good or does his text bring him back and put him on top of your deck?
just wondering, thanks.
Per the CR on Out of Play, Masaya will not return to another area (such as the deck) unless an effect specifies it would bring him back from out of play.
Masaya - Ronin • Samurai 3f/3c 0HR 6G 1PH Open: If Masaya is face-up in one of your provinces: Bring him into play, paying all costs and paying 2 less Gold. Before the turn ends, put him on top of your Dynasty deck.
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I know we have this ruling but I don't know if its applicable to him.
If I buy Masaya during the action phase and he gets killed in battle later on will he still come back to the dynasty at the end of the turn?
Thanks!
Hello,
A player brings Masaya using his Open ability and then, during a battle, plays on him Perfect Sacrifice. Those two abilities have the same trigger of their delayed effects ("before this turn ends"). My question: if the active player decides that Masaya's delayed effect precedes the one of Perfect Sacrifice, will Masaya's destruction take place after he lands on top of the Dynasty deck?
Thanks
Perfect Sacrifice Dark Virtue • Perfection Battle/Limited: Choose your performing Samurai: Give each Personality and Follower in his unit a Force bonus equal to its current Force. Before this turn ends, destroy his unit.
Masaya Ronin • Samurai Open: If Masaya is face-up in one of your provinces: Bring him into play, paying all costs and paying 2 less Gold. Before the turn ends, put him on top of your Dynasty deck.
Hello,
A player brings Masaya using his Open ability and then, during a battle, plays on him Perfect Sacrifice. Those two abilities have the same trigger of their delayed effects ("before this turn ends"). My question: if the active player decides that Masaya's delayed effect precedes the one of Perfect Sacrifice, will Masaya's destruction take place after he lands on top of the Dynasty deck?
Thanks
Perfect Sacrifice Dark Virtue • Perfection Battle/Limited: Choose your performing Samurai: Give each Personality and Follower in his unit a Force bonus equal to its current Force. Before this turn ends, destroy his unit.
Masaya Ronin • Samurai Open: If Masaya is face-up in one of your provinces: Bring him into play, paying all costs and paying 2 less Gold. Before the turn ends, put him on top of your Dynasty deck.
If I buy Masaya during the action phase and he gets killed in battle later on will he still come back to the dynasty at the end of the turn?
Yes. As described under Effects in and out of play, "Effects that were activated on a card in play, and then delayed, also apply to the card at the delayed point in time, even if it is no longer in play."
My question: if the active player decides that Masaya's delayed effect precedes the one of Perfect Sacrifice, will Masaya's destruction take place after he lands on top of the Dynasty deck?
No. In this case, because Masaya has gone both face down and out of play, the Tracking Rule means that the delayed destruction effect ends.