A topic from AEG's L5R CCG Rules forum, copied for Oracle of the Void from a copy of the forum saved in October 2015, so pages it didn't save are missing. Players' names are left out; the rules officials are named. Rulings are as they stood on these dates; later rulings, the rulebooks and the Rules Archive may differ.
A player, 2 March 2012
I almost feel bad asking this because this seems to be the slipperiest rules area in quite some time. The question is between Waystation of the Path's overlay function and Your Clan needs You putting people back into provinces when the effect is over.
Waystation of the Path: Reaction: After another player's action targets your performing Henshin, target another of your Personalities: The Henshin is reborn. Transfer his attachments and tokens to the other Personality. The action's effects that would destroy your Henshin instead overlay him onto the Personality.
Your Clan Needs You: Battle: If any enemy units are at the current battlefield, choose your performing Personality in one of your provincesL Bring him into play at the current battlefield, paying all costs but paying 6 less gold. After the battle ends, if he is in play, discard all of his attachments and put him into one of your provinces, face-up, discarding any card there.
Version 1 - I have Henshin_A in play at an opposed battle. I use Your Clan Needs you to bring Henshin_B into the battle. Me enemy targets Henshin_A, and using Waystation he is overlaid onto B. After the battle, Henshin_B remembers that he came out of the province and goes back in. THEN WHAT HAPPENS? Does the overlayed personality go back in the province with him, or does it get discarded?
Version 2 - I again have Hanshin_A in play, and bring Henshin_B into the battle with Your Clan Needs You. This time my enemy targets Henshin_B, who overlays onto A. If I am correct with the rulings so far, the guy who overlaid (B) is no longer the same personality that came out of the province, so he would ignore the ongoing effects of YCNY and stay in play. Is this correct?
Thanks,
Ryan
Jon Palmer (rules official), 4 March 2012
I almost feel bad asking this because this seems to be the slipperiest rules area in quite some time. The question is between Waystation of the Path's overlay function and Your Clan needs You putting people back into provinces when the effect is over.
Waystation of the Path: Reaction: After another player's action targets your performing Henshin, target another of your Personalities: The Henshin is reborn. Transfer his attachments and tokens to the other Personality. The action's effects that would destroy your Henshin instead overlay him onto the Personality.
Your Clan Needs You: Battle: If any enemy units are at the current battlefield, choose your performing Personality in one of your provincesL Bring him into play at the current battlefield, paying all costs but paying 6 less gold. After the battle ends, if he is in play, discard all of his attachments and put him into one of your provinces, face-up, discarding any card there.
Version 1 - I have Henshin_A in play at an opposed battle. I use Your Clan Needs you to bring Henshin_B into the battle. Me enemy targets Henshin_A, and using Waystation he is overlaid onto B. After the battle, Henshin_B remembers that he came out of the province and goes back in. THEN WHAT HAPPENS? Does the overlayed personality go back in the province with him, or does it get discarded?
Version 2 - I again have Hanshin_A in play, and bring Henshin_B into the battle with Your Clan Needs You. This time my enemy targets Henshin_B, who overlays onto A. If I am correct with the rulings so far, the guy who overlaid (B) is no longer the same personality that came out of the province, so he would ignore the ongoing effects of YCNY and stay in play. Is this correct?
Thanks,
Ryan
Per the rules on overlaying, delayed effects (such as Your Clan Needs You's putting the Personality back into a province) are cleared off of the overlaying Personality, but stick with the overlaid Personality. Also, please remember that the overlaid Personality is removed from the game.
Therefore in example 1, Henshin B (affected by Your Clan Needs You) is overlaid by Henshin A. The Your Clan Needs You effect sticks with the "new" Personality. Henshin B's card is removed from the game, and Henshin A's card goes into a province.
In example 2, the Your Clan Needs You effect ends when Henshin B overlays onto Henshin A.