A topic from AEG's L5R CCG Rules forum, copied for Oracle of the Void from a copy of the forum saved in October 2015, so pages it didn't save are missing. Players' names are left out; the rules officials are named. Rulings are as they stood on these dates; later rulings, the rulebooks and the Rules Archive may differ.
A player, 21 February 2012
Hi,
In my province, there is a dishonored personality of my clan. I bring him into play, so what happens ? I trigger the Proclaim Reaction, do I get honor from that reaction (I really think so) or do I rehonor the personality ?
A question about "clan discount". Has it became like a keyword ? Could it refer to the discount offered by a card effect (like Alliance) or a Stronghold effect (Like Kyuden Kitsune with Lady of the Forest Sensei) ?
Proclaim Reaction : Reaction: After you bring a personality in your province with your clan aleignment into play without clan discount, if it is your turn: Gain honor equal to his base personal honor.
Alliance (Event) Select a faction other than your own. For the rest of the game, you can bring personalities of that faction into play for 2 less Gold.
Kyuden Kitsune (Stronghold) Fox cards cost 2 less Gold for you.
Lady of the Forest Sensei (Sensei) Your Fox Clan Personalities have your Clan's trait.
Thanks in advance, Regards, Rémi.
Jon Palmer (rules official), 21 February 2012
Hi,
In my province, there is a dishonored personality of my clan. I bring him into play, so what happens ? I trigger the Proclaim Reaction, do I get honor from that reaction (I really think so) or do I rehonor the personality ?
A question about "clan discount". Has it became like a keyword ? Could it refer to the discount offered by a card effect (like Alliance) or a Stronghold effect (Like Kyuden Kitsune with Lady of the Forest Sensei) ?
Proclaim Reaction : Reaction: After you bring a personality in your province with your clan aleignment into play without clan discount, if it is your turn: Gain honor equal to his base personal honor.
Alliance (Event) Select a faction other than your own. For the rest of the game, you can bring personalities of that faction into play for 2 less Gold.
Kyuden Kitsune (Stronghold) Fox cards cost 2 less Gold for you.
Lady of the Forest Sensei (Sensei) Your Fox Clan Personalities have your Clan's trait.
Thanks in advance, Regards, Rémi.
You are correct with regards to Proclaim - it does not target or come from, and is not performed by, the Personality, so you would gain their base personal honor.
Clan discount is exactly what it says it is - a modification to bringing a Personality into play. In this case, Alliance is a separate effect, as is Kyuden Kitsune's discount (which means it will stack with your Fox Clan * Yoritomo's Alliance Personalities). If you have non-YA Fox Clan Personalities with Lady of the Forest Sensei they will also get both the -2 cost from the stronghold and the -2 cost from Clan discount.