Hida Kisada (EE) and 'card'.

L5R CCG Rules board, 21 February 2012

A topic from AEG's L5R CCG Rules forum, copied for Oracle of the Void from a copy of the forum saved in October 2015, so pages it didn't save are missing. Players' names are left out; the rules officials are named. Rulings are as they stood on these dates; later rulings, the rulebooks and the Rules Archive may differ.

A player, 21 February 2012

Hida Kisada (EE) has a battle action where he targets a card with less force and destroys it. So, for example, let's say he's facing a 5f personality (who is irrelevant) with a +3f weapon attached, making the personality a total of 8f.. He cannot target the personality 'card' in this unit with his battle action, because the personality card is calculated at being 8f, as it has the +3f weapon attached, correct?

Hida Kisada (EE): Crab Clan • Clan Champion • Samurai • Kensai • Siege • Tactician • Loyal • Unique • Little Bear Reaction: When another player's Battle action would target Kisada: He outmaneuvers it. Choose another Personality you control at Kisada's location. The action targets the Personality instead, if legal. Battle: Target an enemy card with lower Force: Destroy it.

Jon Palmer (rules official), 21 February 2012

Hida Kisada (EE) has a battle action where he targets a card with less force and destroys it. So, for example, let's say he's facing a 5f personality (who is irrelevant) with a +3f weapon attached, making the personality a total of 8f.. He cannot target the personality 'card' in this unit with his battle action, because the personality card is calculated at being 8f, as it has the +3f weapon attached, correct?

Hida Kisada (EE): Crab Clan • Clan Champion • Samurai • Kensai • Siege • Tactician • Loyal • Unique • Little Bear Reaction: When another player's Battle action would target Kisada: He outmaneuvers it. Choose another Personality you control at Kisada's location. The action targets the Personality instead, if legal. Battle: Target an enemy card with lower Force: Destroy it.

Correct. Attachments that add directly to the Personality's force are taken into consideration for Kisada's destruction effect, so he could not destroy a 5F Personality with a +3F weapon (a situation that incidentally came up at my last starter release event).