Beyond the Line & Ring of Water

L5R CCG Rules board, 15 July 2011 to 20 July 2011

A topic from AEG's L5R CCG Rules forum, copied for Oracle of the Void from a copy of the forum saved in October 2015, so pages it didn't save are missing. Players' names are left out; the rules officials are named. Rulings are as they stood on these dates; later rulings, the rulebooks and the Rules Archive may differ.

A player, 15 July 2011

Hello,

When playing Beyond the Line, you are allowed to play a limited/open recon action as a battle action. Would this mean that a Limited/Open Recon played after the playing of Beyond the Line would qualify as a battle action and allow the Ring of Water to be played? Thanks, Example: 1st: Play Battle Action A 2nd: Play Battle Action B 3rd: Play Beyond the Line 4th: Play Dangerous Reconnaissance, Ring of Water Enters play

Cards in Question:

Title Beyond the Line Text Battle: Take an additional action to use a Limted or Open Recon ability as a Battle action, which must target the current battlefield's province. If you do, draw a card after the action's resolution.

Ring of Water • Unique After you resolve your fourth or later Battle action from cards with different titles in one battle: You may put this card into play from your hand. Battle: Bow this card or discard it from your hand: Move one of your target units home or to a battlefield with one or more enemy units. If the unit moved, straighten it.

Title Dangerous Reconnaissance Text Recon Limited: Target your unbowed Scout: Target a province. Draw a card. During your End Phase this turn, draw an additional card if you destroyed the targeted province in battle resolution.

Alex Jones (rules official), 20 July 2011

Hello,

When playing Beyond the Line, you are allowed to play a limited/open recon action as a battle action. Would this mean that a Limited/Open Recon played after the playing of Beyond the Line would qualify as a battle action and allow the Ring of Water to be played? Thanks, Example: 1st: Play Battle Action A 2nd: Play Battle Action B 3rd: Play Beyond the Line 4th: Play Dangerous Reconnaissance, Ring of Water Enters play

Cards in Question:

Title Beyond the Line Text Battle: Take an additional action to use a Limted or Open Recon ability as a Battle action, which must target the current battlefield's province. If you do, draw a card after the action's resolution.

Ring of Water • Unique After you resolve your fourth or later Battle action from cards with different titles in one battle: You may put this card into play from your hand. Battle: Bow this card or discard it from your hand: Move one of your target units home or to a battlefield with one or more enemy units. If the unit moved, straighten it.

Title Dangerous Reconnaissance Text Recon Limited: Target your unbowed Scout: Target a province. Draw a card. During your End Phase this turn, draw an additional card if you destroyed the targeted province in battle resolution.

When playing Beyond the Line, you are allowed to play a limited/open recon ability as a battle action. Would this mean that a Limited/Open Recon played after the playing of Beyond the Line would qualify as a battle action and allow the Ring of Water to be played?

Yes, but note my correction: you're taking a Battle action using a Limited or Open ability. Ring of Water's trait triggers off Battle actions resolving, not Battle abilities being used, so the additional action granted by Beyond the Line does count, as well as Beyond the Line itself.