Straightening out of play

L5R CCG Rules board, 15 July 2011

A topic from AEG's L5R CCG Rules forum, copied for Oracle of the Void from a copy of the forum saved in October 2015, so pages it didn't save are missing. Players' names are left out; the rules officials are named. Rulings are as they stood on these dates; later rulings, the rulebooks and the Rules Archive may differ.

A player, 15 July 2011

Hello,

I've happened to find such a topic in this forum section:

http://alderac.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=59&t=73765&p=966054&hilit=card+memory+bowed#p966054.

The key point there is statement from the Rules:

Cards normally enter play in the unbowed state.

But there is another sentence just below the former one:

Only cards in play can bow or straighten.

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The matter here is one of logical conjunction. Let's assume we have a bowed discarded follower which reenters play. The question is: how a previously bowed card can re-enter play straightened if it cannot straighten while out of play (the second quote)? It would mean it had to straighten instantly after reentering, which is another change of the game state and therefore can be a trigger to a number of reactions. Or does it work some other way?

Thanks

Alex Jones (rules official), 15 July 2011

Hello,

I've happened to find such a topic in this forum section:

http://alderac.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=59&t=73765&p=966054&hilit=card+memory+bowed#p966054.

The key point there is statement from the Rules:

But there is another sentence just below the former one:

.

The matter here is one of logical conjunction. Let's assume we have a bowed discarded follower which reenters play. The question is: how a previously bowed card can re-enter play straightened if it cannot straighten while out of play (the second quote)? It would mean it had to straighten instantly after reentering, which is another change of the game state and therefore can be a trigger to a number of reactions. Or does it work some other way?

Thanks

Cards out of play are neither bowed nor unbowed. When a card leaves play it is no longer bowed or unbowed, it is merely out of play; it neither bows nor straightens when it leaves play. Similarly, when a card enters play, it does so from out of play where it was neither bowed nor unbowed, so it neither bows nor straightens when it enters play.

Alex Jones (rules official), 15 July 2011

Roger has helpfully updated the Comprehensive Rules.

Alex