Daidoji Yorio or Reckless Rush with Crippling Weather.

L5R CCG Rules board, 31 May 2011

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A player, 31 May 2011

This question came up in a game I was playing this weekend.

If Player A slaps down Crippling weather, and then player B decides to play Reckless Rush... Would player B's personality straighten before battle resolution? What about Daidoji Yorio using his own ability in the same situation?

I say they would straighten because Crippling Weather's effect doesn't trigger until the performed action resolves. They are already bowed due to the cost of the action. Also, Crippling Weather says nothing about negating the straightening of people that have performed actions.

Can anyone confirm my interpretation of how it would work?

Alex Jones (rules official), 31 May 2011

This question came up in a game I was playing this weekend.

If Player A slaps down Crippling weather, and then player B decides to play Reckless Rush... Would player B's personality straighten before battle resolution? What about Daidoji Yorio using his own ability in the same situation?

I say they would straighten because Crippling Weather's effect doesn't trigger until the performed action resolves. They are already bowed due to the cost of the action. Also, Crippling Weather says nothing about negating the straightening of people that have performed actions.

Can anyone confirm my interpretation of how it would work?

Crippling Weather bows the Performers after the Resolution of the action, which is a part of process of taking the action. During the Resolution step you activate each effect, but they are not necessarily applied immediately: some are delayed until a specified time or trigger after the action ends.

For example, Reckless Rush conditionally creates two or three effects. It bows the target as an immediate, instantaneous effect; it may destroy the target, again as an immediate, instantaneous effect; it unbows the performer as a delayed effect. These are activated during the Resolution step, but only the first two are applied then. After the Resolution step ends, the action ends, and the performer is bowed by Crippling Weather, although this effect fails in this case because the performer is already bowed. Some time later, after all players pass, the Combat Segment of the current battle ends and its Resolution Segment begins: at that point the delayed effect of Reckless Rush is applied, and the performer straightens.

Doji Yorio works in a similar manner.