A topic from AEG's L5R CCG Rules forum, copied for Oracle of the Void from a copy of the forum saved in October 2015, so pages it didn't save are missing. Players' names are left out; the rules officials are named. Rulings are as they stood on these dates; later rulings, the rulebooks and the Rules Archive may differ.
A player, 1 May 2011
If i have a personality with chagatais armor and an enemy uses a 7 force personality to use Only actions Speak targeting the armor, can i react with Chagatais armor and negate the bowing of my personality?
here is how i understand it: step A: enemy announces action Step b: enemy targets my chagatais armor and announce that his 7F personality is performing step c: enemy pay the cost(none) Before step D: Reaction: announces and resolves the Reaction on Chagatai's Armor, creating an ongoing effect that negates the bowing from OAS step d: Resolve OAS and bow all my unit that is not protected by the armor
this means that my personality is left unbowed.
A player, 1 May 2011
can i react with Chagatais armor and negate the bowing of my personality?
Yes, for stated reason.
A player, 2 May 2011
About topic http://www.alderac.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=59&t=90514
I am slightly confused. Wouldn't the bowing of the Chagatai's Armor happen first? And then Only Actions Speak would check if the performing personaility has 7 or more base force to decide if the rest of the unit bows? Likewise, with The Trap is Sprung, wouldn't it check if you have reconned so that it would bow the Chagatai's Armor first. Then check if you are a Crane Clan Player to see if the rest of the unit bows?
Thanks!
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Only Actions Speak Reaction: After an action is announced: Negate all Honor gains until after the action's resolution. At that time if this negated any gains, negate all Honor gains until the end of this phase and draw a card. Battle: Choose your performing unbowed Personality: Bow a target enemy card with lower Force and without attachments. Bow its unit if your Personality has 7 or more base Force.
The Trap is Sprung Battle: If a Recon action has targeted the current battlefield's province this turn, choose your performing unbowed Scout Personality: Bow a target enemy card. Bow its unit if you are a Crane Clan player.
Chagatai's Armor Armor • Unique Reaction: Before the resolution of another player's action: Negate either the bowing, destruction, or movement of this Personality from the action's effects. Battle: Bow this card: Straighten this unit or move it to the current battlefield. ' [Mod edit: Thread title . Please do not use acronyms. Thanks! -ZF]
Zen Faulkes (rules official), 2 May 2011
Wouldn't the bowing of the Chagatai's Armor happen first? No. The Reaction is "Before the resolution of another player's action", which is before any effects of Only Actions Speak (http://rules.l5r.com/CE_Abilities_and_a ... resolution).
(W)ith The Trap is Sprung, wouldn't it check if you have reconned so that it would bow the Chagatai's Armor first. Then check if you are a Crane Clan Player to see if the rest of the unit bows?
No, for same reason as above.