Low Stance

L5R CCG Rules board, 5 January 2011

A topic from AEG's L5R CCG Rules forum, copied for Oracle of the Void from a copy of the forum saved in October 2015, so pages it didn't save are missing. Players' names are left out; the rules officials are named. Rulings are as they stood on these dates; later rulings, the rulebooks and the Rules Archive may differ.

A player, 5 January 2011

The new wording of Low Stance's Focus Effect: Focus Effect: Before this duel’s resolution, negate all bonuses to each focused card’s Focus Value until the duel ends.

Is the default reading of this: "Negate all current bonuses" a la Justly Earned Victory

OR

"Negate all current and new bonuses" a la Resilient Naginata

Zen Faulkes (rules official), 5 January 2011

The new wording of Low Stance's Focus Effect: Focus Effect: Before this duel’s resolution, negate all bonuses to each focused card’s Focus Value until the duel ends.

Is the default reading of this: "Negate all current bonuses" a la Justly Earned Victory

OR

"Negate all current and new bonuses" a la Resilient Naginata

Under what situations would it matter? Specifics help clarify the problem so we can answer it more precisely.

A player, 5 January 2011

In response to Zen's question here: viewtopic.php?f=59&t=88191#p1167447

It would make a difference if Ochiai xp3 is in a duel where Low Stance is focused: (See: viewtopic.php?f=59&t=88018#p1164308)

If the reading is "current bonuses," then order of resolution of the traits matters.

If the reading is "current and new bonuses," then order of resolution doesn't matter.

Brook Cunningham (rules official), 5 January 2011

In response to Zen's question here: viewtopic.php?f=59&t=88191#p1167447

It would make a difference if Ochiai xp3 is in a duel where Low Stance is focused: (See: viewtopic.php?f=59&t=88018#p1164308)

If the reading is "current bonuses," then order of resolution of the traits matters.

If the reading is "current and new bonuses," then order of resolution doesn't matter.

Since it doesn't specify "current" or "new", it will negate all bonuses (current AND new) for its duration, which is now only until the duel ends, rather than the end of the turn.