Flow of the elements vs Mountainous Region

L5R CCG Rules board, 3 January 2011 to 6 January 2011

A topic from AEG's L5R CCG Rules forum, copied for Oracle of the Void from a copy of the forum saved in October 2015, so pages it didn't save are missing. Players' names are left out; the rules officials are named. Rulings are as they stood on these dates; later rulings, the rulebooks and the Rules Archive may differ.

A player, 3 January 2011

The Trait on Mountainous Region says" Personalities will not move to this province's battlefield"

Can I use the battle action on Flow of the elements to move a personality to this region?

Thanks!

Cards involved

Mountainous Region Region If you are the Defender, when choosing the battlefield at which to fight the next battle: You choose instead of the Attacker.

Personalities will not move to this province's battlefield.

Your defending Personalities have +1F while at this province's battlefield.

Flow of the Elements Water

This Shugenja has a Force bonus equal to the number of Rings you control, and +1F if he is Water.

Battle: Bow this card: Move a target Personality controlled by the enemy leader to the current battlefield. Straighten him.

Brook Cunningham (rules official), 4 January 2011

The Trait on Mountainous Region says" Personalities will not move to this province's battlefield"

Can I use the battle action on Flow of the elements to move a personality to this region?

No.

The "will not" effect from the Region's trait causes any attempt at moving any Personalities to its province's battlefield to fail.

A player, 5 January 2011

About this answer, I would like a clarification.

I think that I can take the action, for the purposes of fulfilling the requirements for Ring of Air or Ring of Water, but the effects (movement of the personality) will fail. Am I right, or am I not allowed to take the action at all?

Brook Cunningham (rules official), 5 January 2011

About this answer, I would like a clarification.

I think that I can take the action, for the purposes of fulfilling the requirements for Ring of Air or Ring of Water, but the effects (movement of the personality) will fail. Am I right, or am I not allowed to take the action at all?

You are correct. Nothing prevents you taking the action, but the Region's trait will cause the movement effect to fail.

A player, 6 January 2011

in response to: viewtopic.php?p=1167640#p1167640 I'd just like to point out that this response makes it also seem like the second effect of Flow of the Elements would fail as well. Based upon the FAQ the enemy personality would still straighten.

Brook Cunningham (rules official), 6 January 2011

in response to: viewtopic.php?p=1167640#p1167640 I'd just like to point out that this response makes it also seem like the second effect of Flow of the Elements would fail as well. Based upon the FAQ the enemy personality would still straighten.

Noted!

Clari-fizzled!