just a clarification of this ruling: viewtopic.php?f=59&t=83885
If I use Will on Setsuko XP, can she then target that same Will for her trait?
Diagotsu Setsuko XP + Will
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If I use Will on Setsuko XP, can she then target that same Will for her trait?
No. [FIXED: see below.]
Regarding this ruling: viewtopic.php?f=59&t=83963
How does this work timing wise? Specifically with this ruling (viewtopic.php?f=59&t=83885) indicating that cards only enter the discard pile after the resolution of the Strategy card.
Relevant cards: Will. Battle: If you control an opposed unit at the current battlefield, target your dead Samurai Personality: Bring him into play there, paying 2 less Gold and ignoring Honor Requirements.
Daigotsu Setsuko: Spider Clan • Shadowlands • Samurai • Paragon • Experienced • Unique • Dark Perfection After Setsuko enters play: Lose 4 Honor and put a Dark Virtue from your discard pile into your hand. Open: Give Setsuko Cavalry, Duelist, or Tactician.
Wouldn't Setsuko have entered play and her trait resolved prior to the action of the Will Strategy card resolving and entering the discard pile? If that is the case, how is it possible for her to put the same Will used to bring her into play into your hand if it has not entered the discard pile yet?
Or does the resolution of Will happen first, and then her entering play trait activate?
Regarding this ruling: viewtopic.php?f=59&t=83963
How does this work timing wise? Specifically with this ruling (viewtopic.php?f=59&t=83885) indicating that cards only enter the discard pile after the resolution of the Strategy card.
Relevant cards: Will. Battle: If you control an opposed unit at the current battlefield, target your dead Samurai Personality: Bring him into play there, paying 2 less Gold and ignoring Honor Requirements.
Daigotsu Setsuko: Spider Clan • Shadowlands • Samurai • Paragon • Experienced • Unique • Dark Perfection After Setsuko enters play: Lose 4 Honor and put a Dark Virtue from your discard pile into your hand. Open: Give Setsuko Cavalry, Duelist, or Tactician.
Wouldn't Setsuko have entered play and her trait resolved prior to the action of the Will Strategy card resolving and entering the discard pile? If that is the case, how is it possible for her to put the same Will used to bring her into play into your hand if it has not entered the discard pile yet?
Or does the resolution of Will happen first, and then her entering play trait activate?
Setsuko exp cannot retrieve the Will used to bring her into play.
The sequence is: ... Will's resolution begins. Setsuko enters play and her trait resolves. Will's resolution ends. Will enters the discard pile.