Akodo Kurogane and naval

L5R CCG Rules board, 3 January 2010 to 21 January 2010

A topic from AEG's L5R CCG Rules forum, copied for Oracle of the Void from a copy of the forum saved in October 2015, so pages it didn't save are missing. Players' names are left out; the rules officials are named. Rulings are as they stood on these dates; later rulings, the rulebooks and the Rules Archive may differ.

A player, 3 January 2010

Can you use Kurogane navally with a naval personality? I was told recently that only one card performing an action must be naval in order to use a naval action, so I though this might be possible.

Zen Faulkes (rules official), 3 January 2010

Can you use Kurogane navally with a naval personality?

Mod nudge: Please use complete card titles when asking questions. I'm going to assume you mean Akodo Kurogane here, and modify the thread title accordingly.

Yes.

I was told recently that only one card performing an action must be naval in order to use a naval action(.)

For the record, and so that you don't have to rely on heresay, the actual rule is here: http://rules.l5r.com/CE_The_Player#Player_abilities

A player, 21 January 2010

with regards to this: viewtopic.php?f=59&t=80861

Akodo Kurogane is not naval to begin with. I thought that in order to perform a naval action, you must declare a personality with a Naval keyword. Or I might be wrong.

I only want to be clarified. Thanks for your answers.

References:

Akodo Kurogane:

Lion Clan • Samurai • Tactician • Unique Battle: If there are more units on your side of the current battlefield than on the enemy side, bow all cards in your target unit: Destroy a target non-Unique Personality.

A player, 21 January 2010

Akodo Kurogane is not naval to begin with. I thought that in order to perform a naval action, you must declare a personality with a Naval keyword.

Two different abilities are involved here. Firstly the Reaction in the rulebook that a Naval Personality can perform after engaging so that his controller will get the first normal opportunity to take a Battle action or pass during the battle (see Player abilities). Secondly this player must announce a Battle action that the Naval Personality chosen above must perform (see Perform in the glossary).

Here comes Akodo Kurogane. Per the glossary, his Battle action is performed by two Personalities: himself, because the ability is on him, and the targeted unit that will bow to pay its cost, because targeting a unit is the same as targeting its Personality (see Unit in the glossary), and a Personality performs an action (taken by his controller) when he is targeted in the action's constraints block. If you bow the same Naval Personality's unit as a cost, this will make him perform Kurogane's action, which is what the rulebook Reaction requires. As a consequence it is legal to use this Reaction, then Kurogane's Battle action, as long as both of them are performed by the same Naval Personality.