Low Stance Questions

L5R CCG Rules board, 19 July 2009

A topic from AEG's L5R CCG Rules forum, copied for Oracle of the Void from a copy of the forum saved in October 2015, so pages it didn't save are missing. Players' names are left out; the rules officials are named. Rulings are as they stood on these dates; later rulings, the rulebooks and the Rules Archive may differ.

A player, 19 July 2009

I have a couple questions about Low Stance.

Low Stance: Focus Effect: Before this duel’s resolution, negate all bonuses to each focused card’s Focus Value. Battle: Target your unbowed Samurai Personality: Target an enemy Personality. After this Combat Segment ends, reduce his Force to 0.

Shameful Injury: Battle: Even if you control no units at the current battlefield: Negate all current Force bonuses and penalties a target Personality has received from actions. Until the turn ends, negate all new Force bonuses or penalties on him from actions.

Justly Earned Victory: Battle: Negate all current Force bonuses and penalties to cards at this battlefield from actions.

Weigh the Cost: Focus Effect: Add 1 to the Focus Values of this card and one other of your focused cards.

Twice-Cutting Spirit: Battle: Target your opposed Samurai Personality: Give him a Force bonus equal to his own Personal Honor. Give a target enemy Personality a Force penalty equal to your Samurai's Chi.

The question for the Focus effect of Low Stance is, if I use it's Focus Effect first, and Weigh the Cost's focus effect second, would I get the bonus? I'm assuming I wouldn't. The other question is that would Justly Earned Victory or Shameful Injury stop the reduction of Low Stance's battle action? I'm assuming that Justly wouldn't, because it says current, and the reduction doesn't occur until after the combat segment. Shameful Injury I'm not sure because it says current and new.

Thanks for the help.

A player, 19 July 2009

Really, this should be in the Rules section: however, here are your answers.

Shameful Injury stops Low Stance, Justly Earned Victory does not, because of the reasons you stated.

Weigh the Cost and other cards with Focus Effects happen before Low Stance's Focus Effect. The timing for Low Stance is "Before this duels resolution" which meant "just before."