Determination + In time of war

L5R CCG Rules board, 24 April 2009

A topic from AEG's L5R CCG Rules forum, copied for Oracle of the Void from a copy of the forum saved in October 2015, so pages it didn't save are missing. Players' names are left out; the rules officials are named. Rulings are as they stood on these dates; later rulings, the rulebooks and the Rules Archive may differ.

A player, 24 April 2009

I recently read a post asking if Determination would allow a player to gain honour above the allowed amount from In time of war, and the reply by Kaiu Genji that it could, however, i was under the understanding that because In Time Of War uses the phrase a player's family honour can not rise over it's value when the turn began + 5, that it would follow the standard rules for Cannot effects and therefore not be negation but a total inability to go over that limit....just curious if i'm getting my annoying rules right, the whole cannot/may not/ can't thing still confuses me....

Zen Faulkes (rules official), 24 April 2009

I recently read a post asking if Determination would allow a player to gain honour above the allowed amount from In time of war, and the reply by Kaiu Genji that it could, however, i was under the understanding that because In Time Of War uses the phrase a player's family honour can not rise over it's value when the turn began + 5, that it would follow the standard rules for Cannot effects and therefore not be negation but a total inability to go over that limit....just curious if i'm getting my annoying rules right, the whole cannot/may not/ can't thing still confuses me....

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I think the post in question is here: viewtopic.php?f=59&t=75048

"Can not" has two possible meanings, not one.

http://rules.l5r.com/Glossary_C#Cannot

You're confusing the use of "cannot" in card text with its use in rules text.