Hida Sozen/Hida Ubogin

L5R CCG Rules board, 2 January 2009

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A player, 2 January 2009

With the following ruling, it was stated that personalities are not able to move into battlefields after being in battle resolution as the attacker the same turn, even though the movement action off of Ubogin cannot be negated. viewtopic.php?f=59&t=72856

With the same justification for Hida Sozen, who cannot be killed by other players actions... Doesnt that make him immune to determination, since his death isn't negated, it just doesn't happen?

Brook Cunningham (rules official), 2 January 2009

With the following ruling, it was stated that personalities are not able to move into battlefields after being in battle resolution as the attacker the same turn, even though the movement action off of Ubogin cannot be negated. viewtopic.php?f=59&t=72856

With the same justification for Hida Sozen, who cannot be killed by other players actions... Doesnt that make him immune to determination, since his death isn't negated, it just doesn't happen?

But Sozen's death IS negated.

http://rules.l5r.com/Glossary_C#Cannot: "When found in card text, and when referring to a type of cost or effect (e.g., bowing, Force bonuses), “cannot” (or "can not") means that a certain type of effect or cost is negated whenever it occurs."