Sensei, fate card, fate discard pile

L5R CCG Rules board, 28 May 2008

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A player, 28 May 2008

Hi,

I have many questions about Sensei assuming they are fate cards.

- Do they go to the fate discard pile when they are discarded or are they removed from the game instead ? - If I discard my Sensei with the ability of the stronghold : Temples of the Crow, does it go to the discard pile? - May I discard a Rosoku Sensei from my hand for the ability of Moshi Amika XP? - Can I put a Rosoku Sensei in my discard pile into play using the K'mee XP ability ? May I have more than 1 Sensei in play as the same time ? (Reading the rules, I think it is not forbidden) - Can I put a Rosoku Sensei in my discard pile into my hand using the K'mee XP2 ability ?

The Cards : Rosoku Sensei Reads, "Rosoku Sensei -1PS +0GP +0FH All Clans Sensei. While this Sensei is in play, it counts as an Elemental Ring for actions on cards. No more than one of your Actions can put cards in your hand each phase." [Erratum, web, 30 August 2006; ML, web, 30 August 2006]

K'mee XP Limited: Bow K'mee: Put a Ring in a discard pile into play under your control. The Ring does not count for Enlightenment while in play. If K'mee leaves play at any time, destroy the Ring.

K'mee XP2 Limited: Look at the top 5 cards of your Fate deck or discard pile. You may bow K'mee: If you do, show one of those cards that is a Ring or Jingasa, and put it in your hand.

Moshi Amika XP : Elemental Battle: Even if bowed, bow or discard a Ring you own: Ranged 6 Attack.

Stronghold : Temples of the Crow Limited: Bow the Temples of the Crow and discard one of your Sensei in play to bring a Sensei into play from your deck or hand. If the Sensei comes from the deck, shuffle the deck.

Thanks in advance,

Best regards, Rémi.

[Mod edit: Thread title. -ZF]

Alex Jones (rules official), 28 May 2008

I have many questions about Sensei assuming they are fate cards.

They are fate cards.

- Do they go to the fate discard pile when they are discarded or are they removed from the game instead ? - If I discard my Sensei with the ability of the stronghold : Temples of the Crow, does it go to the discard pile?

Sensei cards go to the discard pile when they are discarded or destroyed.

On: Temples of the Crow

- May I discard a Rosoku Sensei from my hand for the ability of Moshi Amika XP? - Can I put a Rosoku Sensei in my discard pile into play using the K'mee XP ability ? - Can I put a Rosoku Sensei in my discard pile into my hand using the K'mee XP2 ability ?

No to all of these, since Rosoku Sensei only counts as a Ring while it is in play.

On: Rosoku Sensei, Moshi Amika, K'mee, K'mee, K'mee

May I have more than 1 Sensei in play as the same time ? (Reading the rules, I think it is not forbidden)

Yes, but the effects that let you put a Sensei into play (Temples of the Crow, A New Teacher) discard your current Sensei. Forgotten Lesson + A New Teacher will do the trick, however.