Bayushi Saya and Honesty (clarified)

L5R CCG Rules board, 19 October 2007

A topic from AEG's L5R CCG Rules forum, copied for Oracle of the Void from a copy of the forum saved in October 2015, so pages it didn't save are missing. Players' names are left out; the rules officials are named. Rulings are as they stood on these dates; later rulings, the rulebooks and the Rules Archive may differ.

A player, 19 October 2007

Opponent's Bayushi Saya targets my honorable Samurai A,with PH 2, with her ability. I target Samurai A with Honesty using the ability: Bushido Virtue Open: Target one of your Samurai: Gain 1 Honor, or gain Honor equal to his base Personal Honor if your Family Honor is 9 or less.

What happens?

Chris Fuchs (rules official), 19 October 2007

Opponent's Bayushi Saya targets my honorable Samurai A,with PH 2, with her ability. I target Samurai A with Honesty using the ability: Bushido Virtue Open: Target one of your Samurai: Gain 1 Honor, or gain Honor equal to his base Personal Honor if your Family Honor is 9 or less.

What happens?

You gain the honor, then the action is considered resolved and Saya's effect triggers, dishonoring you and causing you an honor loss.