Shiba Arihiro and Soul Jar

L5R CCG Rules board, 14 September 2007

A topic from AEG's L5R CCG Rules forum, copied for Oracle of the Void from a copy of the forum saved in October 2015, so pages it didn't save are missing. Players' names are left out; the rules officials are named. Rulings are as they stood on these dates; later rulings, the rulebooks and the Rules Archive may differ.

A player, 14 September 2007

I have in my discard pile an honorably dead Shiba Arihiro and another dead personality (Dead Chump). In play I have a Shugenja (ShugA) with a Soul Jar and a Shosuro Adeiko.

I bow ShugA to pay the cost of Soul Jar to bring into play Dead Chump. Upon bowing ShugA, I react with Shiba Arihiro to straighten ShugA. I then go on to resolve the effects of the Soul Jar (having successfully payed the cost), correct? Dead Chump comes into play and then is subsequently destroyed?

May I react with Shosuro Adeiko?

Is it possible, that because of the timing of the straighten effect I have in play an unbowed ShugA and Dead Chump?

Paul Ashman

Relevant card text (the forum doesn't let me quote things).

Reaction: After a Shugenja bows, if Arihiro is honorably dead: Straighten the Shugenja.

Limited: Bow this Personality: Lose 3 Honor. Target one of your dead Personalities. He enters play, waiving costs, with a +2F/-1C token and permanently has 0 PH. After the next time this game this Personality straightens or leaves play, destroy the target.

Reaction: After the effects resolve of a battle resolution, action, or trait that destroyed Adeiko or one of your other Personalities: Give a target Personality a -3F/-1C token, and an additional -1C token if he is dishonorable.