Daidoji Gunso and Iron Tetsubo

L5R CCG Rules board, 10 September 2007 to 11 September 2007

A topic from AEG's L5R CCG Rules forum, copied for Oracle of the Void from a copy of the forum saved in October 2015, so pages it didn't save are missing. Players' names are left out; the rules officials are named. Rulings are as they stood on these dates; later rulings, the rulebooks and the Rules Archive may differ.

A player, 10 September 2007

If I use the Daidoji Gunso Battle ability targeting the Iron Tetsubo, does its trait negate the force penalty?

So by extension is it possible to use two Daidoji Gunsos to destroy a single Iron Tetsubo by reducing its force to 0?

Daidoji Gunso: Battle: Give a target card opposing this one -2F. If the taret now has 0F, destroy it.

Iron Tetsubo: Negate all force penalties on this Personality.

The reason I ask is that the Tetsubo adds its force to that of its Personality, so I'm not sure if lowering its force is considered a force penalty to the Personality or not.

Chris Fuchs (rules official), 11 September 2007

If I use the Daidoji Gunso Battle ability targeting the Iron Tetsubo, does its trait negate the force penalty?

So by extension is it possible to use two Daidoji Gunsos to destroy a single Iron Tetsubo by reducing its force to 0?

Daidoji Gunso: Battle: Give a target card opposing this one -2F. If the taret now has 0F, destroy it.

Iron Tetsubo: Negate all force penalties on this Personality.

The reason I ask is that the Tetsubo adds its force to that of its Personality, so I'm not sure if lowering its force is considered a force penalty to the Personality or not.

Giving a force penalty to a +x attachment will lower the personalities force, and is not considered a force penalty to the personality.