Utter Defeat and Spider Clan

L5R CCG Rules board, 10 August 2007

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A player, 10 August 2007

If a Spider Clan player plays Utter Defeat on his own personality does he still lose the honor?

Utter Defeat Reaction: Before a Personality is destroyed by a battle resolution or for losing a duel: He is completely humiliated. Negate the destruction. Dishonor him. While he remains in play, he can not be rehonored, can not commit seppukku except from a card’s effect, and his controller loses 1 Honor after each of his Dynasty Phases begins.

Thanks!

Zen Faulkes (rules official), 10 August 2007

If a Spider Clan player plays Utter Defeat on his own personality does he still lose the honor?

No.