Hasaiki's Hiding place?

L5R CCG Rules board, 7 May 2005 to 8 May 2005

A topic from AEG's L5R CCG Rules forum, copied for Oracle of the Void from the Wayback Machine (its copy), so posts it didn't save are missing. Players' names are left out; the rules officials are named. Rulings are as they stood on these dates; later rulings, the rulebooks and the Rules Archive may differ.

A player, 7 May 2005

In reference to this post, wouldn't the timing be:

1) Announce Hasaiki's ability

2) Announce targets: 1 personality and a legal target for a ranged attack

3) resolve effects: bow personality

4) resolve effects: perform a ranged attack against previous target

No hiding place is done immediately before a ranged attack is performed. that would be step 4. The fact that a legal ranged attack target was announced back in step 2 is irrelevant. Since you're not actually targeting a ranged attack in that step, would No hiding place then be an illegal reaction to take? Further, when it is legal to take, the target has already been pre-determined by the ability, so No Hiding Place would be wasted there, right?

Zen Faulkes (rules official), 8 May 2005

In reference to this post, wouldn't the timing be:

1) Announce Hasaiki's ability

2) Announce targets: 1 personality and a legal target for a ranged attack

3) resolve effects: bow personality

4) resolve effects: perform a ranged attack against previous target

No hiding place is done immediately before a ranged attack is performed. that would be step 4. The fact that a legal ranged attack target was announced back in step 2 is irrelevant. Since you're not actually targeting a ranged attack in that step, would No hiding place then be an illegal reaction to take? Further, when it is legal to take, the target has already been pre-determined by the ability, so No Hiding Place would be wasted there, right?

No Hiding Place changes allowable targets, so would be played when targeting occurs, regardless of when the Ranged Attack is actually produced. By card text, it is know that Hasaiki no Oni's ability will generate a Ranged Attack, so the ability can be used with No Hiding Place.