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A player, 12 April 2005
Ok, reacting to a ruling here :
Zen Faulkes wrote:fushio wrote:
When Agasha Kushojin use his ability and your stroghold is Kyuden Agasha, the fear strenght is calculated taking the stroghold discount in account?
No; cost reductions last until something is paid for (Enemy of My Enemy rulesheet).
I didn't see the EomE rulesheet yet, but what I heard is that "until the cost are paid" is a default duration added to "until the end of the turn" for unspecified duration effect.
However, the trait on the stronghold is a trait, well, that's obvious , but my point is, the effect is not applied once, it is constantly applied, so the reduction should be still there after cost is paid (though I prefer the other ruling, it would perhaps make KA more playable).
Togashi Imura
Zen Faulkes (rules official), 12 April 2005
Ok, reacting to a ruling here :
Zen Faulkes wrote:
fushio wrote:
When Agasha Kushojin use his ability and your stroghold is Kyuden Agasha, the fear strenght is calculated taking the stroghold discount in account?
No; cost reductions last until something is paid for (Enemy of My Enemy rulesheet).
I didn't see the EomE rulesheet yet, but what I heard is that "until the cost are paid" is a default duration added to "until the end of the turn" for unspecified duration effect.
However, the trait on the stronghold is a trait, well, that's obvious , but my point is, the effect is not applied once, it is constantly applied, so the reduction should be still there after cost is paid.
My earlier post has now been corrected (thanks for linking straight to it). Cost reductions with a specified duration -- including "all the time" -- work as they always did. (It's a bit tricky, not having an EoME rulesheet to work from...)