Questions Regarding the new Shadowlands Oni

L5R CCG Rules board, 11 April 2005

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A player, 11 April 2005

I just had two questions about a couple of the oni, and I could not find

any rules references to these two questions. If they have already been

asked, my appologies:

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#1. For Hasaiki no Oni, do you need two seperate targets for the Battle

action? Since it refers to a first and second target, I am assuming it

required two, but I have heard contrary so was looking for clarification.

Relevant Text:

Hasaiki no Oni

Battle: Once per Battle, Target an Opposing personality and a legal

target for a Ranged attack from this card. Bow the first target. Produce a

ranged attack against the second with a strength equal to the first target's

force.

#2. For Sentei no Oni, he states that after he comes into play that he

negages all permanent effects on him. What happens if you use the

Egg of P'an Ku to copy Sentei no Oni and he dies? When he comes back

into play does the card become a unique action card again (because the

affect is Self-refering) and is no longer a person? If so, what happens to

said action card?

Relevant Text:

Sentei no Oni

Before your Events Phase, if Sentei no Oni is dead you may bring

it into play ignoring all costs. Negate all permanent effects on it.

The Egg of P'an Ku

* Reads, "The Egg of P'an Ku 9G 4FV Unique. Limited: Target a Personality, including a Unique Personality or one who will not join you. After entering play, this card becomes a copy of that Personality's printed card plus all permanent changes in effect on it. None of the Personality's costs need to be paid and no entering-play effects are produced." [MRP, Diamond Edition, 27 October 2003]

* Once played, it:

o Is a Personality permanently [DW, netnews, 4/5/96], even if destroyed. [RD, 4/8/96]

o Loses its status as a Unique action. [JA, email, 18 November 2003]

* If sent back to your Dynasty Deck, it actually goes in, despite being a Fate card. [DW, 14 November 1997] When it appears in a Province, it follows normal requirements and restrictions.

* May copy a Singular card. [ML, 5 August 2004]

Thanks.

Zen Faulkes (rules official), 11 April 2005

For Hasaiki no Oni, do you need two seperate targets for the Battle action?

Yes.

#2.

For Sentei no Oni, what happens if you use the Egg of P'an Ku to copy Sentei no Oni and he dies?

The Egg remains Sentai no Oni; I've already ruled this within the last couple of days but because the forum search is busted, will take some time to find it.