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Hi, I guess this has already been asked once or twice but I fear I never read about.
Question is: What is the difference between discarded, discarded from play, removed from play and removed from the game.
.. Okay, I know the ifference between discarded and removed from he game but where do I have to see the other two?
I came up with the question, when I was wondering, wether Isawa can cast the Walking the Way in my hand or not.
Hello.
From acc. rulings:
For cards printed prior to Diamond Edition: "Discard from play" means "remove from the game."
discarded from play=removed from play=removed from the game
Greetings.
Hi, I guess this has already been asked once or twice but I fear I never read about.
Question is: What is the difference between discarded, discarded from play, removed from play and removed from the game.
"Discard" = put into the appropriate discard pile.
"Remove from the game" = take the card in question completely out of the game, into its own special "outside the game" pile, and never bring it back unless explicitly instructed.
"Discard from play" is a confusing and discontinued phrase that means "remove from the game". We haven't used it since the Gold era. It isn't in the current rulebook or on the most-recent printing of any Diamond-legal card.
"Removed from play" is the same as "leaves play in any way", or simply "leaves play". A card going from play to any other state -- such as into a discard pile, hand, deck, or outside the game -- is being removed from play. It's not a special term, it's just grammar. And it's more a trigger than a verb. No card will ever tell you to "remove a card from play" because there is no information there regarding where to actually put it.
I came up with the question, when I was wondering, wether Isawa can cast the Walking the Way in my hand or not.
He can't. One of Walking's costs is destroying itself, which is a way of leaving play. (Notice, by the way, that he wouldn't be able to cast it anyway, since you cannot pay the cost. You can't destroy a card in your hand.)
Hi, I guess this has already been asked once or twice but I fear I never read about.
Question is: What is the difference between discarded, discarded from play, removed from play and removed from the game.
"Discard" = put into the appropriate discard pile.
"Remove from the game" = take the card in question completely out of the game, into its own special "outside the game" pile, and never bring it back unless explicitly instructed.
"Discard from play" is a confusing and discontinued phrase that means "remove from the game". We haven't used it since the Gold era. It isn't in the current rulebook or on the most-recent printing of any Diamond-legal card.
"Removed from play" is the same as "leaves play in any way", or simply "leaves play". A card going from play to any other state -- such as into a discard pile, hand, deck, or outside the game -- is being removed from play. It's not a special term, it's just grammar. And it's more a trigger than a verb. No card will ever tell you to "remove a card from play" because there is no information there regarding where to actually put it.
I came up with the question, when I was wondering, wether Isawa can cast the Walking the Way in my hand or not.
He can't. One of Walking's costs is destroying itself, which is a way of leaving play. (Notice, by the way, that he wouldn't be able to cast it anyway, since you cannot pay the cost. You can't destroy a card in your hand.)
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