Force on Spells' traits

L5R CCG Rules board, 7 September 2015 to 15 September 2015

A topic from AEG's L5R CCG Rules forum, copied for Oracle of the Void from a copy of the forum saved in October 2015, so pages it didn't save are missing. Players' names are left out; the rules officials are named. Rulings are as they stood on these dates; later rulings, the rulebooks and the Rules Archive may differ.

A player, 7 September 2015

Just wanted to clarify if the force on the spell's traits can be negated by courage beyond question or the likes, or is it continious like those of items. tia

Brook Cunningham (rules official), 8 September 2015

Just wanted to clarify if the force on the spell's traits can be negated by courage beyond question or the likes, or is it continious like those of items. tia

Courage Beyond Question only negates Force bonuses from actions that it Interrupts.

If the Spell in question has a trait that gives a Force bonus, like Armor of the Emperor, it would not be affected. If the Spell gives a Force bonus through an action, like Burning Spirit, that COULD be Interrupted and negated.

Note that this ruling only applies to Courage Beyond Question. I'm afraid "the likes" of Courage Beyond Question is too broad to make any specific rulings upon. Although, I hope I can at least be somewhat additionally helpful by saying that Items' stats in their upper left corners that are Force Modifiers are a completely different thing from bonuses received from traits or actions in the text box.

A player, 8 September 2015

Just wanted to clarify if the force on the spell's traits can be negated by courage beyond question or the likes, or is it continious like those of items. tia

How about Breaking the Rhythm? Does it negate all the spells' force modifiers/bonuses? tia

Alex Jones (rules official), 9 September 2015

How about Breaking the Rhythm? Does it negate all the spells' force modifiers/bonuses? tia

Force bonuses from traits on Spells, as well as Force bonuses granted by previous actions, will be negated by Breaking the Rhythm.

A player, 15 September 2015

tnx so much sir