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A player, 1 April 2015
This came up in my testing recently, we defaulted to it being possible, but I'd like to know the correct ruling.
Suppose I have a Brilliant Cascade Inn. I resolve mercantile conflict, and my opponent resolved Abdication on his turn. I target a dishonored personality with printed PH of 1. What honor loss do I get?
My assumption: I am the active player so I choose the order the effects are applied. So I target the loss of 1, increase it to 2 with conflict, then apply abdication to lower it back to 1. Result: loss of 1.
My opponent's thought: Target his PH 1 individual, abdication reduces it to 0, then conflict tries to increase a 0 and cannot, because it is not a loss. Result: no loss and I look silly.
Which situation is correct? If neither, how does this action resolve?
Thank you.
Jon Palmer (rules official), 9 April 2015
This came up in my testing recently, we defaulted to it being possible, but I'd like to know the correct ruling.
Suppose I have a Brilliant Cascade Inn. I resolve mercantile conflict, and my opponent resolved Abdication on his turn. I target a dishonored personality with printed PH of 1. What honor loss do I get?
My assumption: I am the active player so I choose the order the effects are applied. So I target the loss of 1, increase it to 2 with conflict, then apply abdication to lower it back to 1. Result: loss of 1.
My opponent's thought: Target his PH 1 individual, abdication reduces it to 0, then conflict tries to increase a 0 and cannot, because it is not a loss. Result: no loss and I look silly.
Which situation is correct? If neither, how does this action resolve?
Thank you.
These are both triggered effects with the same trigger, so the active player will choose the order in which they resolve. The loss would be 1 in this case, if you want it to be.