Guidance in War and Victory Through Deference (again)

L5R CCG Rules board, 10 January 2015 to 15 February 2015

A topic from AEG's L5R CCG Rules forum, copied for Oracle of the Void from a copy of the forum saved in October 2015, so pages it didn't save are missing. Players' names are left out; the rules officials are named. Rulings are as they stood on these dates; later rulings, the rulebooks and the Rules Archive may differ.

A player, 10 January 2015

http://www.alderac.com/forum/viewtopic. ... r#p1444575

I understand this ruling on VtD played on Personality with attached Spell with "This Shugenja..." trait, but i'm still confused with GiW text "This Spell's Invest effects last while it remains attached to the Shugenja".

So if someone play VtD (and name Shugenja) on my Personality with GiW attached with maximum Invest paid:

a) all Invest effects "This Shugenja..." are turned off this round and come back next turn b) all Invest effects "This Shugenja..." are unaffected and Personality is still Cavalry, Conqeror, has +2F and has Battle ability.

Roger Giner-Sorolla (rules official), 15 February 2015

http://www.alderac.com/forum/viewtopic. ... r#p1444575

I understand this ruling on VtD played on Personality with attached Spell with "This Shugenja..." trait, but i'm still confused with GiW text "This Spell's Invest effects last while it remains attached to the Shugenja".

So if someone play VtD (and name Shugenja) on my Personality with GiW attached with maximum Invest paid:

a) all Invest effects "This Shugenja..." are turned off this round and come back next turn b) all Invest effects "This Shugenja..." are unaffected and Personality is still Cavalry, Conqeror, has +2F and has Battle ability.

As noted in the ruling post, "the Shugenja (Samurai, etc.)" had always been a mere term of reference, and not intended to fail if the card lost that keyword. The question was about "This" and the way it was resolved was, to bring it back into line with the use of "the," again, making it only a point of reference and not requiring the keyword to be sustained.

So to answer your multiple choice, the answer is b; the effects stay on after losing Shugenja. Thanks for asking!