A topic from AEG's L5R CCG Rules forum, copied for Oracle of the Void from a copy of the forum saved in October 2015, so pages it didn't save are missing. Players' names are left out; the rules officials are named. Rulings are as they stood on these dates; later rulings, the rulebooks and the Rules Archive may differ.
A player, 19 August 2014
Hi,
Can I discard a Fudo Ring for it's effect?
This question came up in a game I was playing yesterday.
My argument was that on page 9 in the Advanced Rulebook in the text about Ring cards: ..."They can be discarded from the hand to use their ability" ...
His argument was This ruling: Fudo Rings and This ruling: Fudo rings where it says you can't pay the cost of bowing the ring for it's action.
After the game I went on looking and found that both on the cards and in the Oracle of the Void all the rings, Fudo and the standard ring, have a bow cost. I fail to see the difference between them that would allow standard rings to be used from the hand and not the Fudo rings and they are both Ring type cards and I have been unable to find anything in the Ivory Rulebook that differenates between them.
If the Fudo rings can not be used from the hand can the standard rings be used from the hand as they all have a bowing cost too?
Jon Palmer (rules official), 19 August 2014
Hi,
Can I discard a Fudo Ring for it's effect?
This question came up in a game I was playing yesterday.
My argument was that on page 9 in the Advanced Rulebook in the text about Ring cards: ..."They can be discarded from the hand to use their ability" ...
His argument was This ruling: Fudo Rings and This ruling: Fudo rings where it says you can't pay the cost of bowing the ring for it's action.
After the game I went on looking and found that both on the cards and in the Oracle of the Void all the rings, Fudo and the standard ring, have a bow cost. I fail to see the difference between them that would allow standard rings to be used from the hand and not the Fudo rings and they are both Ring type cards and I have been unable to find anything in the Ivory Rulebook that differenates between them.
If the Fudo rings can not be used from the hand can the standard rings be used from the hand as they all have a bowing cost too?
All of the standard rings also have trait saying "You may discard this Ring from your hand to use its ability without cost". The Fudo rings lack this trait, and so their bow cost needs paid in order for their abilities to be used.