Tsujiken sensei and recruiting an out of clan personality

L5R CCG Rules board, 4 August 2014 to 6 August 2014

A topic from AEG's L5R CCG Rules forum, copied for Oracle of the Void from a copy of the forum saved in October 2015, so pages it didn't save are missing. Players' names are left out; the rules officials are named. Rulings are as they stood on these dates; later rulings, the rulebooks and the Rules Archive may differ.

A player, 4 August 2014

If a holding is targeted by Tsujiken sensei's ability and that holding is bowed to pay gold for an out of clan personality with say 8HR and i am currently at 8 honor. will the recruit action fail because i lost honor bowing the holding targeted by Tsujiken sensei's ability?

Alex Jones (rules official), 6 August 2014

If a holding is targeted by Tsujiken sensei's ability and that holding is bowed to pay gold for an out of clan personality with say 8HR and i am currently at 8 honor. will the recruit action fail because i lost honor bowing the holding targeted by Tsujiken sensei's ability?

The choice of Personality to be Recruited is made during the "Resolve Effects" step of the action, whereas the gold is paid - and the honour lost from Tsujiken Sensei - in the earlier "Pay Costs" step.

Thus, by the time you're choosing a Personality to Recruit, you will already have lost the honour.