Question, if all my holdings are bowed and I have Yoritomo Yashinko xp and Ring of Air in play, can I play Tiger Claw by bowing Yashinko for 3 gold, then unbowing her with Ring of Air and bowing her for another 3 gold to pay for Tiger Claw?
Yashinko xp with Ring of Air
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Question, if all my holdings are bowed and I have Yoritomo Yashinko xp and Ring of Air in play, can I play Tiger Claw by bowing Yashinko for 3 gold, then unbowing her with Ring of Air and bowing her for another 3 gold to pay for Tiger Claw?
No, sorry; you have to completely finish paying for, then resolving, the Equip action for the Tiger Claw before you can take the Ring of Air's Open action.
Now, if you had an attachment to Equip, or action to take, for 1G before Equipping the Claw, you could pay for that with Yashinko, leaving 2G left over, then take the Ring of Air's action, THEN use the 2 leftover Gold plus another bowing of Yashinko for the 5G T-Claw.
Following up on the following ruling : http://www.alderac.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=59&t=108198
Wouldn't you simply be able to pool 3 gold, and then use your Ring of Air to unbow Yashinko, then pool 3 more gold and THEN announce equipping Tiger's Claw?
Alternatively, aren't you allowed to overpay for any actions anymore?
Does the ruling also imply that any effects that unbow a gold producing card cannot be used to purchase a more expensive card? Ex : using Yasuki Tono XP/Ide Kosaka (or Yamazaki in extended) to unbow your holding and then buy a higher cost attachment?
Off of this:http://www.alderac.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=59&t=108198
Would it be legal to announce the Ring of Air action, bow Yoshinko to pay for the RoA action (having all 3 gold left over in your pool), and use that action to straighten her?
Then could you, as your next action, use her again, with the 3 in your pool, to buy the Tiger Claw?
Following up on the following ruling : http://www.alderac.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=59&t=108198
Wouldn't you simply be able to pool 3 gold, and then use your Ring of Air to unbow Yashinko, then pool 3 more gold and THEN announce equipping Tiger's Claw?
Alternatively, aren't you allowed to overpay for any actions anymore?
Does the ruling also imply that any effects that unbow a gold producing card cannot be used to purchase a more expensive card? Ex : using Yasuki Tono XP/Ide Kosaka (or Yamazaki in extended) to unbow your holding and then buy a higher cost attachment?
1. Gold producing traits are triggered by payment, so you have to be paying for something first in order to trigger them. You can't just produce Gold for the sole purpose of saving it up for a later action.
2. And alternatively, no, you can't overpay for actions that have no Gold Cost, because you don't pay Gold for them at all. Now, you COULD pay to Equip a 0GC attachment (instead of a 1GC one, in my original example). And what you're thinking of is that all Strategies USED TO have a printed 0GC on them you could overpay for, but they don't anymore.
3. No, you can't use an non-Interrupt unbow action (like Yasuki Tono Exp's) DURING another action's payment. If you want to Equip a 5GC attachment, but you have no leftover Gold, only one 3GP Holding, and you have no other action you can possibly pay for in that phase besides Equipping that attachment, you won't be able to attach it no matter how many non-Interrupt Holding-unbow actions you have.
Off of this:http://www.alderac.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=59&t=108198
Would it be legal to announce the Ring of Air action, bow Yoshinko to pay for the RoA action (having all 3 gold left over in your pool), and use that action to straighten her?
Then could you, as your next action, use her again, with the 3 in your pool, to buy the Tiger Claw?
As #2 above, Ring of Air's action has no Gold Cost, so you can't trigger a Gold-producing trait with it.