Imperial Summons

L5R CCG Rules board, 13 March 2014 to 14 March 2014

A topic from AEG's L5R CCG Rules forum, copied for Oracle of the Void from a copy of the forum saved in October 2015, so pages it didn't save are missing. Players' names are left out; the rules officials are named. Rulings are as they stood on these dates; later rulings, the rulebooks and the Rules Archive may differ.

A player, 13 March 2014

Based on the Good Faith rule posted here.

Say I have my stronghold unbowed but don't control the Favor. I'm assuming that I can annouce Imperial Summons because I could bow my stronghold to play it. But could I choose to discard the favor (that I don't have) instead even though I could bow my stronghold?

Say I have the favor and my stronghold is bowed And/or I don't control the Favor. Could I choose to bow my stronghold and have the action fail since I don't actually target my stronghold?

Edit: I guess this is similar to the Seeking the way ruling but I still don't understand it.

Also from the advance rule book page 49:

Some cards describe an effect happening “to” do something else (for example, “Discard a card to gain 1 Honor.”) If the first effect fails (for example, discarding a card with no cards in hand), the second thing (gaining Honor) does not happen.

This makes me believe that I could do the above and that seeking the way works as well.

A player, 14 March 2014

The Good Faith Rule, as detailed in the Reference Rulebook , allows you to use Favor actions if you have alternate means of satisfying the effect. Otherwise, cards like Kyuden Otomo XP or similars wouldn't work. Either effect has to happen that satisfies the effect of discarding the Imperial Favor, which in the case of Imperial Summons includes bowing the stronghold as another possibility.