Dying Remonstration

L5R CCG Rules board, 15 February 2014

A topic from AEG's L5R CCG Rules forum, copied for Oracle of the Void from a copy of the forum saved in October 2015, so pages it didn't save are missing. Players' names are left out; the rules officials are named. Rulings are as they stood on these dates; later rulings, the rulebooks and the Rules Archive may differ.

A player, 15 February 2014

I feel like this has been asked before, but I can't seem to find the thread using a search.

I want to confirm that if I play "Dying Remonstration" on one of my dishonorable personalities, they rehonor from the seppuku before causing the honor loss... otherwise the honor loss in this situation would be 0 since dishonorable personalities have 0 PH by rule book effect.

Dying Remonstration Political Open: Your target unbowed Human Personality commits seppuku. A target player loses Honor equal to the Personality's Personal Honor or 4, whichever is lower.

Thanks

A player, 15 February 2014

I don't remember this question being asked before...

Yes, the rehonoring occurs before the honor loss, so the maximum PH of 0 is no longer in effect and thus the honor loss will occur (assuming the Personality's current PH after rehonoring is greater than 0).