Otomo Sensei Vs. Civility

L5R CCG Rules board, 17 April 2013 to 19 April 2013

A topic from AEG's L5R CCG Rules forum, copied for Oracle of the Void from a copy of the forum saved in October 2015, so pages it didn't save are missing. Players' names are left out; the rules officials are named. Rulings are as they stood on these dates; later rulings, the rulebooks and the Rules Archive may differ.

A player, 17 April 2013

Followup question regarding this:

viewtopic.php?f=59&t=102625

With the new wording on Otomo Sensei

Not affecting Temple of Death

How will it Interact with Civility?

Civility:

Keywords

Bushido Virtue Text

Open: Choose your performing discarded (not dead) Samurai Personality: Bring him into play, paying all costs.

Otomo Sensei:

Keywords

All Clans Text

Before one of your cards enters either of your discard piles: Remove it from the game instead. Reaction: Any number of times per turn, before a player removes a searched-for card from his deck or discard pile, remove a card in your hand from the game: Remove the searched-for card from the game.

So will Otomo Sensei prevent me from playing a discarded personality? with the new wording i think not...

Thanks in advance!

Brook Cunningham (rules official), 19 April 2013

Followup question regarding this:

viewtopic.php?f=59&t=102625

With the new wording on Otomo Sensei

Not affecting Temple of Death

How will it Interact with Civility?

Civility:

Keywords

Bushido Virtue Text

Open: Choose your performing discarded (not dead) Samurai Personality: Bring him into play, paying all costs.

Otomo Sensei:

Keywords

All Clans Text

Before one of your cards enters either of your discard piles: Remove it from the game instead. Reaction: Any number of times per turn, before a player removes a searched-for card from his deck or discard pile, remove a card in your hand from the game: Remove the searched-for card from the game.

So will Otomo Sensei prevent me from playing a discarded personality? with the new wording i think not...

Thanks in advance!

Choosing one of your cards in your discard pile still fits the definition of "searching".

The change was that Temple of Death did not "get" the card (per the original vague wording of Otomo Sensei).

By attempting to put the Personality into play via Civility, you are most assuredly "get"ting it (or, as the Oracle wording now goes, "removing" it from your deck or discard pile).

Therefore, Otomo Sensei's Reaction CAN stop Civility.