Abilities on removed cards question

L5R CCG Rules board, 16 April 2013 to 18 April 2013

A topic from AEG's L5R CCG Rules forum, copied for Oracle of the Void from a copy of the forum saved in October 2015, so pages it didn't save are missing. Players' names are left out; the rules officials are named. Rulings are as they stood on these dates; later rulings, the rulebooks and the Rules Archive may differ.

A player, 16 April 2013

Just a question. If a card gains abilities, traits and/or keywords temporarily and got removed from the game by Blood of the Preserver. Since they are faced up in the "out of the game area", when the turn ends do lose the gained abilities?

A player, 16 April 2013

Since the card remains face up through all the process, the Tracking Rule will allow it to keep the gained abilities. It requires to be both face-down and out of play to lose them.

A player, 18 April 2013

Just a follow on this http://www.alderac.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=59&t=102842

since cards effects that affected the cards the were removed from the game stays. Do that effects themselves expire during normal "end of turn" or do they stuck in the personality forever? Eg. I gave my peep 3 Unstoppable Strike abilities then removed him from the game via Blood of the Preserver. Do effects of 3 Unstoppable Strike abilities ends even if my peeps is out of the game when the turn ends? Or At the beginning of the next turn when the peeps comes into play do the 3 Unstoppable Strike abilities becomes permanent?

Alex Jones (rules official), 18 April 2013

Just a question. If a card gains abilities, traits and/or keywords temporarily and got removed from the game by Blood of the Preserver. Since they are faced up in the "out of the game area", when the turn ends do lose the gained abilities?

Ongoing effects with a duration end when that duration expires.

Ongoing effects "on" a card lose track of which card they apply to when that card goes face down and out of play.