Another question regarding Koshin Keep/Phoenix combo

L5R CCG Rules board, 15 April 2013 to 16 April 2013

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A player, 15 April 2013

Ok... you mentioned it would not kill the personalities with followers. But you mentioned in the previous topic that it could? (re: viewtopic.php?f=59&t=102742 ) Or am I misunderstanding? What order do the additional actions for range strikes come in?

I ask because of the situation I described, with Hosigeru popping off a range strike on everyone... if Kanade pops off the followers with the additional actions generated from Koshin Keep, would the restriction on personalities w/followers no longer apply for the additional action on them after Kanade kills his/her followers?

(Sorry for pestering, but this is an interesting combo and this also gives me insight for future issues combos like this may generate)

re: viewtopic.php?f=59&t=102810

Jon Palmer (rules official), 16 April 2013

Ok... you mentioned it would not kill the personalities with followers. But you mentioned in the previous topic that it could? (re: viewtopic.php?f=59&t=102742 ) Or am I misunderstanding? What order do the additional actions for range strikes come in?

I ask because of the situation I described, with Hosigeru popping off a range strike on everyone... if Kanade pops off the followers with the additional actions generated from Koshin Keep, would the restriction on personalities w/followers no longer apply for the additional action on them after Kanade kills his/her followers?

(Sorry for pestering, but this is an interesting combo and this also gives me insight for future issues combos like this may generate)

re: viewtopic.php?f=59&t=102810

Hosigeru does simultaneous ranged attacks, which means they can only target cards that were targetable when the original action was used. A Personality with followers was not a legal target at that time, and Koshin Keep won't let you later target them during the resolution of Hosigeru's action and Koshin Keep's follow-up actions.