Sun and Moon #rules-questions

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That also applied later on in Jade, depending on what you're using to pay, and if it gives the Shadowlands taint.

Yes. Playing Deadly Ground is playing an Action card, which Ninja Tricks can cancel.

It's cancelled, so it never entered play for that purpose.

If it just negated the effects, such as Mercy Shrouds the Earth, then you wouldn't be able to without first destroying the "empty" Deadly Ground.

[EEext]: Regarding these 2 personalities... can i have both in play or do i have to overlay ?

You can have as many personalities with the same name in play as you like, so long as only one of them is Unique.

If you had 2 Sawako's could you freely choose to attach both followers to the same personality? Or must you then give one to each?

You choose who would get each Follower

Each effect is its own trigger, each could target whatever they like.

Thank you so much!

Also, if I have -1 province strength, eg Tetsuya sensei in Ninja or Spirits, what is the effective province strength towards being destroyed? Would a simple Toku take my province without any help despite having 0 force?

And,if I give say +2 province strength, would it result in a total of 1 or 2 province strength?

Please tag your questions with edition/format tag in the beginning of post like [Imperial], [OBH], [Samurai] etc. Same question may have different answer depends on ruleset or specific printing.

As Imagined. Then, it seems extremely weird that BASH plays it alongisde Oni ni Pekkle and His Most Favored😅🤷‍♂️

Makes sense. Will do!

Cool. You may also update this QQ post.

EExt: Can I play Kitsuki Judgement on a Monk, and force him to commit sepeku?

90% sure monks couldnt commit

I'm so sad it specifies Human. I wanna make a Dragon commit seppuku.

Nah, they never printed Dragons with the Samurai trait.

Way too easy to mess with.

Although being able to Kolat Master a Dragon was always pretty interesting thematically-speaking.

Satsu is Dragon and Samurai in most of his versions...

As is Yokuni

And also Loyal. Though, to be fair, you can Remorseful and a bunch of other stuff.

because that's not how this stronghold as ever worked, to my recollection. But, I'm refusing to simply take it as a solved issue.

I forgot the rulebook was a killer😅 thanks!

[Jade] How's Blessings of Isawa considered to be interacting with Shinsei's Riddle? It doesn't look like Blessings is copying the Riddle's ability (and back in Jade it never had the text that its ability can't be copied anyway), so it should be fine to Bless onto someone to use it once per turn, each turn?

[OBH]

Because of Ikoma Ayumu EXP's wording: does this mean he can't use the Tactical Advantage action during Battle?

In addition to the normal use in battle you can use it as open

Also the Ancestors right?

The format definitions (Open, Extended Jade, Strict Jade) are like pillars in one direction, while trying to get a tourney-appropriate cardpool in those formats chops them off at some point. So having a simulated tourney before Spirit Wars came out would just not include any SW cards in any of the three "pillars", if you will.

I am bulding a battle box that DOES NOT fit any pre defined format. That’s a decision made by design. And the reasons are because I love old frames and think senseis opened up the game a lot. Since the decks are meant to be played in a closed group it s perfectly fine. However, they all fit in Jade Open format for all effects (is just that I deliberately don t use all the avaliable card pool🤷‍♂️)

Then, I also happen to have a fistful of Jade Ex decks so I can socialize beyond that☺️

Open is a mess as during every edition we could call Open format anything legal since beginning up to the specific expansion.

So Open was constantly expanding. So after releasing SW it was still Open. Then Gold arrived and it was still Open format played and so on.

La Voz Akasha got this Open-Jade section and decks there were published chronologically since Jade. And every newer deck just got new recently released cards inside. Latest decks there included even Gold era cards from around 2002, so format was just constantly evolving.

Fair enough. If you think a better way to categorize what Inpropose, Inam happy to rename it.

It s good that everyone understands what webare refeeeing to

That was what I recall. Wanted double check. Thanks!

Any you want. In Draft you may have any number of copies of same card in decks.

I’m thinking more about splitting gold

It depends. With Ivory draft Stronghold and cardpool, gold pooling is fine. In Legacy with randomized Strongholds you may use classic gold system/ruleset.

The order doesn't matter right?

Feign Death then Darkness Feeds since it's the same trigger

Destruction of a Personality

Does it change anything that in the Oracle, Darkness Feeds also says "after"

Yeah I understand. Thanks so much!

The honor loss from Suspicions until the end of the game is a card effect still?

Correct.

You do not lose honour from an opponent's Suspicions, but you do from yours.

Go by the (much simpler) Oracle wording. It only concerns itself with cards about to hit the discard pile or already in discard pile. With how Events (for example) worked back then, it would have no effect beyond physically removing the Event card from the discard pile, so it can't be re-shuffled via a Spell or other effect and have it resolve again.

Honestly, I've never heard of that card ever played back in Clan Wars or Jade. I see the "written intent" in it, but mechanically-speaking, I think it would be a bit of a nightmare to handle? For example, does it mean I can use the Reaction effect to, say, target your Charge as it hits the discard pile, and then the Force bonus is lost?

Ahh, lovely, already covered. Good find!

Maybe pin it?

Have you checked Dropbox?

/Various/Past FAQ and Rulings/

So, this makes me think it does negate the ongoig effects? Given the second clarification?

So it would revoke the effects of OLOA? Or even Charge as @saaam was mentioning, fwiw

Oh thanks. A lot of resources I need to get used to🙏

IMHO no. "by effect on play" i mean effects like "if X card is in discard" or "Y does something or gains bonus for every copy of X in discard pile". After removing from game there's even no X in discard anymore.

Ok, I think we can agree on that. It simplifies the understanding of the card.

But it’s a pitty because it moves it from interesting cards to barely unplayable IMO🥲

That's why it wasn't played a lot. It's tech against resurrection and search

So yeah, it is largely a remove from discard effect but it needed to be ruled due to the poor wording

It is good FETA hate, though. It does not only can exile a ring but it also can catch a Kiho before being returned to hand with EHoS

The Rings very rarely hit the discard pile, though. They swap from hand to hand.

let me check the Library... yes, Imperial Herald Volume 1, Issue 11, pag 25

It is not rare to be merchant caravan fodder early in the game to get ahead on gold development just to retrieve it with Kaede later on.

I’ve done that a lot.

Also, the errata

Fair, if desperate. I played a lot during Jade, so it's more of a play style thing to not do risky things.

The wind´s truth change form all to the chi was in jade?

Agree is just that Jurojin saw so little play that it really didn’t feel risky😅😃

Gold

Very interesting 😄

Uhh, no? I would argue that you can take Ikoma Shuji's action because it's a single action with multiple effects, one of which destroys Deadly Ground. You wouldn't be able to pick the non-Deadly Ground-destroying option, because it would have been done in bad faith and the entire Ikoma Shuji action would be invalid, so it couldn't happen.

The only way allowed action is one that destroys the terrain. You cannot take an action that does not destroy the terrain.

Yes you can

Thanks to you both

Thanks, Oracle text is more clear. The stronghold said “when bringing” and “the Shugenja involved gains…” which made me wonder