Sun and Moon #rules-questions

October 2021

Messages from the Sun and Moon #rules-questions Discord channel, copied for Oracle of the Void. Players' names are left out; the rules officials are named. Rulings are as they stood on these dates; later rulings and the rulebooks may differ.

A player, 30 October 2021 17:36

@kempy_nezumi I have a question regarding ambush... can I use it to target Otomo Suikihime? Imo its text prevents its owner to assign her to a battlefield, but it should not prevent other players from doing so... am I right?

kempy_nezumi (not official), 30 October 2021 17:57
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A player, 30 October 2021 18:00 · in reply

Thanks a lot!!, I thought so since its text only prevents the owner from doing so...

A player, 30 October 2021 19:33

It's why Bayushi Saya was so nasty in Diamond Edition.

A player, 30 October 2021 19:33

https://images.oracleofthevoid.com/l5r/a0/8d/printing_874_2_details.jpg

A player, 30 October 2021 19:34

You'll note that it says "he assigns" not "his controller assigns him."

A player, 30 October 2021 19:34

Saya+ambush made for a lot of broken hearts.

saaam (not official), 30 October 2021 19:37

Plus being Dishonored in the process.

A player, 30 October 2021 19:45

You shouldn't have let me target you with Ambush!

A player, 30 October 2021 19:50

I would tell this to people unironically and then one of them was in a game and they tried to Ambush one of my bowed big units.

A player, 30 October 2021 19:50

I told them that "The Time Is Not Right To Ambush"

A player, 30 October 2021 19:50

"Please Don't Don't Do it."

A player, 30 October 2021 19:51

They thought I was joking...then I whipped this out...

A player, 30 October 2021 19:51
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saaam (not official), 30 October 2021 19:52

That's really good meta, actually. Especially since it stops Kolat Assassin/Kolat Master, without refunding them.

A player, 30 October 2021 19:53

Yep. I always told people it's more important to be familiar with the rules and cardpool than to be a good player.

saaam (not official), 30 October 2021 19:53

It depends.

saaam (not official), 30 October 2021 19:53

But it certainly helps.

saaam (not official), 30 October 2021 19:54

It's a lot of what helped me win when I couldn't afford good rares.

A player, 30 October 2021 19:54

It's subjective of course, but I always recognized I wasn't a great player.

saaam (not official), 30 October 2021 19:54

Know the cardpool, know the local players and their decks/styles, and then cheap-meta®️ my way to success.

A player, 30 October 2021 19:55

I was a better metagame person than player. I remember doing deck testing the night before Emerald Championships. We tested for almost two days. I went like 3-14 against my group with my deck that I was going to bring.

A player, 30 October 2021 19:55

But I got top 8 and they didn't even get the cut at top 16.

saaam (not official), 30 October 2021 19:55

Mmhmm.

A player, 30 October 2021 19:56

I cross reference with how well my deck played against opposition, what the field looked like, and my cardpool.

A player, 30 October 2021 19:57

One of my friends was a very good shadowlands player, but I knew shadowlands wasn't going anywhere. If I put shadowlands meta in my deck, then that just means I don't have cards for decks that will appear more often.

A player, 30 October 2021 19:58

This is why I can't make Lion decks. They just feel wrong.

saaam (not official), 30 October 2021 19:59

Hah.

saaam (not official), 30 October 2021 20:00

Reminds me of one of the MtG Worlds, where the winner looked at the field and saw two main decks making up the whole field, so he built a deck purely out of meta for both, and steamrolled.

saaam (not official), 30 October 2021 20:00

Can't recall which one, and Googling isn't working as I'd hoped.

A player, 30 October 2021 20:00

Yeah. Absolute legend. I think it's called "sligh" or something similar to that.

A player, 30 October 2021 20:02

L5R will never have that problem though. There are people who will refine and get maximum performance out of a clan out of loyalty, even if that clan is bad. Your deck has to be good, not "meta against the most popular decks"

saaam (not official), 30 October 2021 20:03

With notable exceptions.

saaam (not official), 30 October 2021 20:04

It's why I loved Ninja. It was just a platform, giving you almost endless options.

saaam (not official), 30 October 2021 20:04

I used to run No Personality Decks out of that. 22+ Events, almost all meta.

A player, 30 October 2021 20:04

The number of times you heard people getting knocked out and complaining loudly of "jank that nobody should be playing", lol

saaam (not official), 30 October 2021 20:05

Pretty much. People with decks made out of $20 worth of cards, but they meta enough, and get good pairings.

A player, 30 October 2021 20:59

The same goes for yugi... usually most of the players chose meta decks, but there are some that goes with the anti-meta route and those can be very difficult to deal with

A player, 30 October 2021 21:37

I'm a horrible meta player. I've tried putting meta cards in my decks and even when facing those decks I can't seem to find the cards I need on the turns I need them.

A player, 30 October 2021 21:40 · in reply

moving to "looking for a game" since my reply isn't about rules...

A player, 30 October 2021 21:51 · in reply

Ah, Bayushi Saya. A staple on my Mantis Magistrate deck which almost won me a kotei!