https://youtu.be/Rr3pdnWORxs?si=i_gFZkfBSKSxnr another Ronin leftover
[Activision/EAI Interactive/Wizards of the Coast (1998)]
Oracle of the Void #l5r
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Ronin was a cancelled Activision/WotC L5R Diablo clone
https://www.unseen64.net/2020/11/16/legend-five-rings-ronin-pc-cancelled/
[Legend of the Five Rings: Ronin [PC - Cancelled] - Unseen64]
Polling Discord: my friends and I have ALWAYS felt that a great format for L5R is “Old Backs Only” ……everything that has the Old design is Legal in this format we have created. It just seems like a natural block. Curious if anyone else plays this format we call it OBO for Old Back Only. Thx guys and I look forward to the discussion!
That format as you describe it is basically just Open before the final Jade Arc Expansion. Most people who prefer a similar environment will just play with the final expansion too anyway and play "Clan War through Jade Arcs" combined, or play Jade Extended, which is mostly that but without Clan War Spells, Events, or Personalities who didn't get Experienced or reprinted in Jade.
Incidentally, "Open but without the last expansion of Jade" was the exact environment of the final Jade storyline tournament at GenCon 2000, a few months before Spirit Wars released.
Ah, I see…..makes sense. What makes OBO super attractive to us is that we don’t need to get caught up in knowing the sets - if it’s Old Back it’s legal! Very fun. Even have the cards from Heroes of Ruk bc they are OB…
Fair. By the same token, you could include the final Jade set and still not have to know anything about sets and play by the fronts instead of the backs: "if the expansion is denoted by the card border and not by little letters next to the artist credit". But then you'd have to sleeve some. 😛
Although, if you're not sleeving 30 year old cards to play with them, you're kind of a monster anyway. 😉
Haha fair point. Appreciate the comments looking forward to what others think.
The OBO games have been awesome. Lots of parity which I bet others wouldn’t think during that era …
It's a better format compared to strict Clan Wars. Larger cardpool, more viable clans, better Holdings.
Unicorn doesn't suck that much.
What’s CW Format?
Imperial to Scorp. Coup.
That's sounds an awful lot like Open.
Which was Clan Wars + whatever Jade Arc sets had been printed.
It was pretty unhinged, too.
What made it unhinged? Curious
I did say that already above. 😛 And, it wasn't all that unhinged, at least not by AEG standards at the time; as I also said above, "Open without Spirit Wars" (because it hadn't released yet) was the format they chose for the final Jade Arc storyline tournament at GenCon 2000, "Battle at Oblivion's Gate".
Interesting.
Unhinged in the way that you had a new arc's worth of cards, but also the previous one, which included L5R's "Power Nine" or what-have-you, like Evil Portents, Shinsei's Shrine, Wedge, the Clan Swords, and a few other busted things.
And yeah, relatively-speaking, it wasn't that unhinged. However, at the time, it was a thing, with a lot of grumbly players who couldn't get their hands on the earier Clan Wars power cards.
Y'all clearly trauma blocked Crane THC 😂
Akuma 2nd turn 2 province pops also
Extended Jade and Open were unhinged af
Lol
The other night I pulled off the Akuma turn 1, turn 2 attack, pop province 1, rally, sup tactics, pop province 2, rally, Sup tactics, pop province 3.
Proceed to lose friends phase
Uhh.
Sub Tacs who to where?
I don’t think the Clan Swords are broken or OP by any means - everyone can get one but yeah it’s a race to get yours out first ..
Was wondering that as well
Dropping the Clan Sword in an Honour mirror-match made the game half the time by itself.
In Military, less big of a swing, unless you had a ton of weenies out.
I hope you weren't SupTaxing from your Fief back into a Battle.
Now, Turn 1 Akuma, Turn 2 Attack/Province, and then resolve the next Battle and playing Forced March to make Akuma crush a 2nd Province is totally viable.
Sorry accessible terrain (my brain tied into counter to the card. 🤷) but now that I'm thinking through it that doesn't itself create presence is action does so I guess I cheated... Whoops
Answers on: Accessible Terrain
No, Accessible Terrain absolutely lets you do that. Either move in from another Province, or from your Fief.
Accessible is "Absent".
However, there's a cardinal rule about a Personality not being able to be in another Battle after they've already gone through one Battle Resolution as an attacking Unit.
That didn't exist at the time though
(Without a further card effect saying it can, like Forced March.)
Did it?
I thought that was added later?
That's why the Shadowlands and Jade editions said "This card can be played in a battle in which you have no units." on Accessible Terrain.
Fair point
No, you're right; "Second Battle Rule" didn't exist in CW. The Forced March Text is Oracle, not printed.
It wasn't a keyword, just a sentence added to a bunch of cards to explain that they'll create presence, etc.
Yeah, I was employing brevity.
There we go. I was reading the most up-to-date one on oracle which would work differently
But yeah like my fourth game of L5R I had that used against me and its been burned in ever since. Tbf they warned me
Talking "Accessible"? I mean, besides the fact I reformatted the entering play clause to the new "Destroy others" paradigm, it does work the same.
I missed the Absent part of Absent Battle: 🤦😂
It's been a long week sorry guys 😅