Oracle of the Void #l5r

March 2021

Messages from the Oracle of the Void #l5r Discord channel, copied for Oracle of the Void. Players' names are left out; the rules officials are named. Rulings are as they stood on these dates; later rulings and the rulebooks may differ.

saaam (not official), 15 March 2021 03:23

I'm curious, how popular was drafting? I know AEG tried it for a number of years, and in different ways.

A player, 15 March 2021 03:35

i think, for the Most part, it went over well for Casual Play. I ran side events with it at most of the Kotei's i ran, that I Called Wild Draft ( With a few specific extra rules, and a focus on random fun ) . and I think Colson ran the Top cut of his yearly New years weekend event as draft several times.

A player, 15 March 2021 08:39 · in reply

tbh i think they made Ivory drafting really fun. I have never played an official event and we were never able to get a draft going in a store so it seems that the format has never really taken off. Still, we have drafted quite some times with my friends at home. Ivory is also great for cube and nowadays when most of my friends don't have constructed decks - when we play L5R, we cube.

kempy_nezumi (not official), 15 March 2021 08:47

Agree, IvE/20F draft was good. We drafted some in late 20F and after sale. Mostly with Thunderous Acclaim and Evil Portents.

A player, 15 March 2021 14:04

people always enjoyed the draft side events i ran

A player, 15 March 2021 14:04

dedicated "I only play this clan and I'm not happy unless i'm playing this clan" tended not to like it as much.

Brook Cunningham (rules official), 15 March 2021 14:12

I imagine people who were also bad at making construction decisions on the fly weren't fans. raises hand 😛 However, I agree with the above anecdotes that at tournaments I attended, the Draft side events were never wanting for interest.

kempy_nezumi (not official), 15 March 2021 14:20

As nearly all Koteis i visited were 3 days long, a friday night drunken draft was standard procedure.

Alex Jones (rules official), 15 March 2021 15:35

I much preferred Suicide to Draft.

Alex Jones (rules official), 15 March 2021 15:36

Cut out those pesky construction decisions 🙂

Alex Jones (rules official), 17 March 2021 07:27

Also: https://oracleofthevoid.com/#cardid=11944 🙂

A player, 17 March 2021 16:13

Looking for other cards like force of will, test of honor, and remorseful seppuku. Any other cards to p kill dishonorables?

Answers on: Remorseful Seppuku
Alex Jones (rules official), 17 March 2021 16:15

Judgement

Alex Jones (rules official), 17 March 2021 16:16

https://oracleofthevoid.com/#cardid=4061

kempy_nezumi (not official), 17 March 2021 16:19
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Alex Jones (rules official), 17 March 2021 16:19

Also: https://oracleofthevoid.com/#cardid=982 and https://oracleofthevoid.com/#cardid=7973

saaam (not official), 17 March 2021 16:21

Although not about dishonoured Personalities, I Believed in You... is amazing with the old rules.

saaam (not official), 17 March 2021 16:21

Because a Breach and a couple of those can do some serious damage, considering you can take out Clan Champions with it for free.

Alex Jones (rules official), 17 March 2021 16:22

What do you mean by "with the old rules"?

kempy_nezumi (not official), 17 March 2021 16:22
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kempy_nezumi (not official), 17 March 2021 16:23
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Alex Jones (rules official), 17 March 2021 16:23

As of Ivory, you can ignore HRs when bringing Personalities into play if your opponent has caused you an honour loss.

Alex Jones (rules official), 17 March 2021 16:24

But that doesn't mean that I Believed in You stops working.

saaam (not official), 17 March 2021 16:25

Oh nice. So it's a specific window to just bringing into play, not ongoing.

A player, 17 March 2021 16:29

Awesome guys! Thanks for all the options. I am making a list! 💯

saaam (not official), 17 March 2021 16:30

Are you checking it twice?

A player, 17 March 2021 16:30

finding out who's naughty and nice...

A player, 17 March 2021 16:32

Cause bayushi kachuki is coming to town!!

saaam (not official), 17 March 2021 16:35

Nah Fu Leng is coming to town. Kinda like Evil Santa Claus from Futurama.

A player, 17 March 2021 16:37

Haha, agreed but but not nearly as on theme 😂

A player, 17 March 2021 16:37

Fu Leng is Krampus?

A player, 17 March 2021 16:39 · in reply

He's the Grinch, Onnotangu is Krampus

A player, 17 March 2021 16:40
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A player, 17 March 2021 16:41

These brats?

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saaam (not official), 17 March 2021 16:48

Back when I mostly played Ninja I had locals run that as meta against me. Annoying.

Brook Cunningham (rules official), 17 March 2021 16:48

Then, when Island Sanctuary came out, did you cry even harder? 😉

A player, 17 March 2021 16:53

Haha, my buddy played ninja all the time and I don't think ninja players fully realized how annoying they were to play against 😂

A player, 17 March 2021 16:54

Let's have a 5 hour game and hold up the whole tournament 😄

A player, 17 March 2021 16:54

I just ran BASH and METH during that era.

Alex Jones (rules official), 17 March 2021 16:55

Dark Path of Shadow doesn't target anything, does it?

A player, 17 March 2021 16:55

My meta was small though, ninjas had trouble getting a foothold

A player, 17 March 2021 16:55
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Alex Jones (rules official), 17 March 2021 16:55

So... You just need to play a DPoS deck with no Ninja actions in it.

Alex Jones (rules official), 17 March 2021 16:56

Or at least, none that target your opponent.

Alex Jones (rules official), 17 March 2021 16:56

Best such deck was clearly Brian's busted honour runner 🙂

Alex Jones (rules official), 17 March 2021 16:57

It involved, as these decks invariably do, Oni no Pekkle

A player, 17 March 2021 16:58

I had some success with Brotherhood Enlightement as well, previously I was 30/30 crane and Phoenix, but unlike a lot of guys in my local I was fine with switching clans to play in tourneys.

Brook Cunningham (rules official), 17 March 2021 16:58

I hate Tainting my deck, but I even had a SE Phoenix Honor build with Pekkle for a time.

Alex Jones (rules official), 17 March 2021 16:58

It doesn't really work any more, as Pekkle's now first time per turn only.

A player, 17 March 2021 16:59 · in reply

I like Pekkle for getting to 10 honour it's a real risk though.

Brook Cunningham (rules official), 17 March 2021 17:00

Remember when it seemed like they were going to make Supai a thing, but apparently forgot?

Alex Jones (rules official), 17 March 2021 17:01

(Brian's deck was TDPoS + The Dark Moto Sensei, and involved making Pekkle a Ninja, using Of One Mind to copy Bayushi Hisa exp's ability to her, then reducing her chi to 0 so she dies, and putting her into the Bayushi Provinces from where you can bring her into play as your next action)

Brook Cunningham (rules official), 17 March 2021 17:02

Gotta Ninja-fy Hisa too for that combo.

Alex Jones (rules official), 17 March 2021 17:03

Oath of Fealty.

Brook Cunningham (rules official), 17 March 2021 17:04

Sure, just making sure all the steps were there, and that poor Hisa wasn't getting besmirched as a natural Ninja.

Alex Jones (rules official), 17 March 2021 17:04

Means you have to reduce her chi by 2 instead of 1, but hey

Brook Cunningham (rules official), 17 March 2021 17:06

Hrm. Looks like I forgot to put "Repeatable" on that Region when I was re-wording it. Because once you got the combo, it was infinite, right?

Alex Jones (rules official), 17 March 2021 17:10

Yes

A player, 17 March 2021 17:11

Well thats gross, and not the intention of ANY of those cards.

A player, 17 March 2021 17:11

Fu Leng approves

A player, 17 March 2021 17:13

Haha, yeah that's a crazy combo! Gross! I liked my friends militant ninja the most. It was a very creative deck taking provinces on the sly and no need to rally cry

Brook Cunningham (rules official), 17 March 2021 17:16

I've got a list of corrections to put in the Oracle once it's editable again. adds that to the list

A player, 17 March 2021 17:20

DpoS you could bring in Ninja personalities for 2 less? It's been a while?

Alex Jones (rules official), 17 March 2021 17:21

Your clan is Ninja, so you got Clan discount for them.

A player, 17 March 2021 17:21

diabolical

saaam (not official), 17 March 2021 17:51

And Way of Shadow works for any Ninja card, including Holdings and Retainers.

A player, 29 March 2021 04:59

Got my DSLR document camera set up 🙂

kempy_nezumi (not official), 29 March 2021 06:03

I got my new backs in my dropbox. I have cut them from one of pdt pdfs that included them. So its 100% digital source.

kempy_nezumi (not official), 29 March 2021 06:13

But thanks for old ones.

saaam (not official), 29 March 2021 06:24

Awesome, thank you kindly!

A player, 29 March 2021 06:34

Ahh.. digital is better, deleting posts

kempy_nezumi (not official), 29 March 2021 11:05

Added those old/sote backs to DropBox (Various folder)

A player, 29 March 2021 15:14

old fate, trim fixed

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A player, 29 March 2021 15:14

old dynasty trim fixed

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A player, 29 March 2021 15:14

old token trim fixed

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A player, 29 March 2021 15:15

@kempy_nezumi might want to regrab these. My auto-deskew/auto-crop script was off on the cropping (negative numbers depending on if left/top vs right/bottom)

kempy_nezumi (not official), 29 March 2021 15:49

ah, i've notice you trimmed and resized to half or original size (old were 12xx x 17xx)

A player, 29 March 2021 15:52

huh.. discord did that.

A player, 29 March 2021 15:54

ah.. open original, then save those?

kempy_nezumi (not official), 29 March 2021 15:58

i'll try from phone. it worked well with first versions

kempy_nezumi (not official), 29 March 2021 16:01

ok, from phone i've downloaded full size. weird

A player, 29 March 2021 16:01

it looked like opening the original on a browser got some CSS that changed the presentation to half scale, but if you DL the image as a file it's the full size

A player, 29 March 2021 16:02

or something along those lines... currently at work, so only kinda looking at it

saaam (not official), 29 March 2021 20:35

Oh man. Playing with the old card backs is definitely a trip down memory lane.

A player, 30 March 2021 14:55

anyone have a list of which EE starter decks had what cards?

Brook Cunningham (rules official), 30 March 2021 15:12

Do you mean Emperor or Emerald? (I'm guessing the former, and unfortunately I don't, sorry.)

A player, 30 March 2021 15:21

emperor

A player, 30 March 2021 15:21

got a bunch of loose sealed ones... and wanting to get the correct halves together 🙂

A player, 30 March 2021 21:21

OK so I've heard tell of the 30/30 days and that Ogre Outlaw plus One Koku in Yoritomo's Alliance was a thing. Anyone have a deck list?

A player, 30 March 2021 21:27

@kempy_nezumi is the hero I need.

kempy_nezumi (not official), 30 March 2021 21:39

sorry, don't have such list

A player, 30 March 2021 21:40

I don't have a deckist for it but a new addition would be diamond mine 🤤

A player, 30 March 2021 21:40 · in reply

you are still an MVP

A player, 30 March 2021 21:41 · in reply

As an 4-5 option for the one koku?

A player, 30 March 2021 21:42

Well the old stronghold can flat out pay 6 gold first turn. I used to run take the initiative, welcome home (honor is gold), and I'll try to remember some others.

A player, 30 March 2021 21:43

I think I did tell the tale too because it's essentially another 1 koku with that stronghold

A player, 30 March 2021 22:04

I had lies lies lies for a 2 honor boost

A player, 30 March 2021 22:06 · in reply

Trying to keep it clan war era for this one. I have a 40/40 METH deck already.

saaam (not official), 31 March 2021 02:56

Welcome Home is the wrong era.

A player, 31 March 2021 02:57

Haha, as was pointed out. 💩 😅

A player, 31 March 2021 04:34

I just remember other players getting that character stacked then i'd kolat master them and beat them with their own dude 🙂

saaam (not official), 31 March 2021 04:43

Tell the Tale becomes another One Koku.

kempy_nezumi (not official), 31 March 2021 18:22

https://www.facebook.com/CCGhistory/posts/133158655475764

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saaam (not official), 31 March 2021 18:37

I don't have Facebook and it requires a login.

kempy_nezumi (not official), 31 March 2021 19:00

You can check this post without login.

saaam (not official), 31 March 2021 19:01

"You must log in to continue."

kempy_nezumi (not official), 31 March 2021 21:04
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saaam (not official), 31 March 2021 21:09

Thank you kindly!

saaam (not official), 31 March 2021 21:09

Hmm. Lots of questions. But most would related to 10-15 years ago, when those CCGs were last alive.