Oracle of the Void #l5r

Looking for Emperor arc. Can't seem to Google any decklists. I'm slowly going through the cardbase to figure out what works and doesn't, but that's a lot of cards, and I never played Emperor arc, sadly.

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/vsabdrqgcqfqepp/AACNYaigHIRNTZvZVRq9K0joa?dl=0 /decks folder

https://www.strangeassembly.com/tag/emperor-edition

Uhh, did Emperor not use the starting holding(s)?

Starting Holdings (Border Keep and Bamboo Harvesters ig you go second) were in Celestial and Emperor

Some EE decks in my /decks folder have version of used experienced BK/BH in decks name

Ahhh. That makes more sense now. Thank you.

As default every ce/ee decks has to use bk/bh. In SnM options you can set Use Starting Holdings and BK will be created automatically along with Harvestrs if you go second. If you put any experienced version in your deck it will be played instead default ones then they are removed from deck.

Dont forget that Creating Order, Border Keep exp and A Game of Dice from Forgoten Legacy got later (nerfed) reprints. To use them in EE environment just add FL versions to your decks instead Ivory reprints.

Ahh. Right. Thank you for the reminders, I had blocked those out.

This is a discord for the original LOT5R's CCG?

i played when i was a kid and just found a box of my old cards looking to see if i can make decks and play again with what i have

Legend of the Five Rings CCG .. yes

sweet

people still play the original from this discord i gather?

there are others that can better answer that 🙂 I play on occasion with friends locally.

this Discord is more in support of Oracle of the Void ( https://oracleofthevoid.com/ ) .. but i have seen some Discussion of cards and rules as well .. the SunandMoon channel may be more what you are looking for.

just sorting through the cards now

Yeah. SnM has the looking for game sections. https://discord.gg/tPhxpZ2Fgk

(kempy started a full server now)

cool thanks. dont even know where to start it's been almost 30 years lol

👍

Oracle + SnM lets you build decks and play any Arc online

oh shit cool

dont even need the cards

Yep. Check what edition, etc they are using Oracle. Really old stuff has ebay value

yeah i have a small stack of imperial stuff

Depending on how old I'm happy to help you figure out if you have deck worthy cards. I played from 1997-2002 though after that is a mystery

Those were, arguably, the best years for the game. At least fun-wise and community growth-wise.

Yea, that was my working in a comic shop getting it for free pre college days.

Yeah, that would help.

Oh hey thanks - i separated the cards by clans and have about 10-20 personalities for a few clans - and not a lot of the others.

i think my cards are from 95-96

i mostly played magic, but dabbled in lot5r,battletech and nut runner. I don't have the deckboxes so i don't have any strongholds and the chase cards like hida yakmo and bayushi kachiko are long gone lol

all the cards are before they put rarity symbols on them

Men, we're in Oracle of the Void Discord. So you can go into Oracle and check your printing.

🙂

I checked a few I have a small stack of imperial - couldn't really tell the others

Oh man, I miss Internet 1.0 sites.

Wedge and Shinsei's Shrine are big, too.

Don't think I have any of that chase stuff

Is it worth it to buy a battle of beiden pass box set to play ?

If you wanna play I think it's a great place to start

BP is a solid starting point.

storms over matsu / seige of sleepy mountain is good too

(if you want to stay in that general era)

Personalities by clan

nothing stands out here.

if you wanna see some old decks from the clan war era.

http://g5r-heralds.s3.amazonaws.com/07-The.Imperial.Herald-Vol.2.No.3.pdf

Awesome thanks!

I think I'd just like a couple balanced decks to dual from time to time - maybe teach my wife to play

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/vsabdrqgcqfqepp/AACNYaigHIRNTZvZVRq9K0joa?dl=0 /decks folder

sadly there's not so many pre Lotus stuff, but in readme.pdf you have links for other sites with really old decks

There were no real balanced decks back then.

That was part of the fun.

lots of rock paper scissors. decks that would run rampant unless you had the right things to shut it down. reading the environment and predicting was most of the game.

well.. a large part.

Yea Playing Crane vs Shadowlands my friends are upset when I get out ki-rin and the game just ends.

the later decks in jade were much more versitile

Well, to be fair, your friends should be running some kind of PKill in Shadowlands. Kolat Master and/or Assassin, at the very minimum.

Ki-Rin is only an issue against really poor decks, to be fair. There were very few ways of keeping it alive back then beyond a turn or two.

so sometimes the cards might not have been in hand.

True.

I'm more trying to get at saying that there were a lot of problems and overpowered cards, but they tended to have direct answers. For example, Iris Festival was brutal. But you had Avoid Face, and There Is No Hope.

Fun thing is, there were a ton of these. A ton of broken cards, and a ton of really strong meta.

If you really want to have fun in a casual way, I really recommend pooling cards together and doing something like a cube draft, or similar.

Many years ago I used to do that with some friends who weren't hyper competitive; we'd pool cards, sort by type, and then hand out stacks to people, and we'd go build decks to play. So you get a few strongholds, a pile of holdings, people, actions, and so on. Some of it you have to rig a little to make sure people get some staples that work in most decks, but it made things fun. (Also worked amazingly well for the old pre-Last Vegas Rage CCG.)

Well the real problem is I just copied the decks from day of thunder imperial heraldn then shipped them to my buds...

Yea, we sort of did that growing up, I got Phx and crane my friend took lion and shadowlands everyone else got scraps...

Right. So you've got super tuned decks, that will wreck the field, or get wrecked, with no in-between. That is to say, the game used to have a lot of randomness to it, and these decks are tuned to get around it, which will skew the playing experience.

Thankfully with Sun and Moon, you don't have to worry about card rarities. So you can enjoy and customize the field however you see fit.

For example, I have a pile of decks that are Open until TotV/SCC. Then open to Spirit Wars. Then Strict Jade to DJH. Then Strict Jade to Spirit Wars. Etc.

When I have time, I also build decks slowly advancing one set at a time, because the environments swung wildly between sets, especially in the Open and Jade eras.

You could have the entire tiers redefined by a single expansion, because so many broken and overpowered cards were printed.

And then a couple of sets later the MRPs hit and nerf, but not enough. Then later is overpowered meta.

It was also a magical time where you could run multiple wildly different kinds of decks off of the same stronghold. Some clans could do literally everything off of one box: honour, military, dishonour, and even enlightenment or a special Event-based win condition. Often you'd have 2+ methods of winning in the same deck.

In the latter arcs, this was really shut down, and you started getting the focused strongholds and the 2-3 "themes" per clan, and you were screwed if that wasn't what you liked.

I think My crane deck has won military once

Iris Fest and a clan sword had to take my team in for resource control

@saaam eg in last arc (ivory/twenty festivals) every clan had only one stronghold per clan. you could build anything if you had of course enough clan personalities for theme or there were some unaligned to fill the gaps. sensei cards could help to shape your deck as well.

2+ methods of winning were popular in every arc i played (since Lotus), it was often called "switch deck". most popular were military/(dis)honor ones.

Event based win conditions were moslty jank tech and with al anti-event meta it was always to risky. better concept were win-con events as additional pressure element. I remember that eg Claiming the Throne was quite popular event in its time and even saw people winning thanks to it.

this one was legal in Samurai, Celestial and Twenty Festivals

btw the more i learn about oldest arcs, more i believe it was just strange and crazy l5r, but it was far from being the best l5r ccg era.

Yeah, I would agree with that. The game in the early years was just wild, but really fun. I wouldn't recommend it for a structured large-scale tournament, because of the randomness and meta variability. However, for the community, and local game store tournaments, as well as casual play, it was really fun and enjoyable.

Yeah, those arcs also had a ton of variety in factions. The game never recovered after the crunched them down for Gold.

Imperial had these wicked one-stronghold factions, but eg in Celestial and Emperor also were Strongholds that allowed to make strange unaligned decks or one-faction decks like Imperial (Journeys Keep exp).

this one even won gencon (faceless honor)

How this deck was working?

there were none Personalities inside, it just gained honor from holdings/events and kill everything with chi death 😉

Imperial Ninja™️!

it was 100% anti meta deck, as in "normal" scene there was Mantis deck with lot of money that just kill every Personality on the table. So this JEkexp deck don't play any Personalities that made Mantis fate deck obsolete 😉

ok and they won with holding

and absent action to send home and neutrase force

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Diamond Add really fun forteress (Lotus by extentisions)

To bad Lotus was calibrate by a child of 3 years old

That is my white whale

that's deck, sorry there were two personalities inside but you just could skip them and even don't play them if you expected some open kill, harpoon or dishonor https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSIgmm8Jsto&list=PL9qwwEhE0R_yZKLNGN9Y_VeJDcXqc5BCQ&index=18

My proverbial White Whale is a box of DJH starters. Or, at least, some sealed Ninja starters, since I can find TA and Phoenix ones here and there.

this combo deck was from which clan stronghold?

You are a rock star!

Good haul. Those look in excellent shape, and I see rares sticking out.

At some point I want to get a playset of the Clan Wars and Jade era promos.

They do. I don't presently have the time to scour and deal with all of the individual deals, plus the monster shipping (when done via eBay) to Canada.

It's really frustrating, because it'll quote me like US$20 to ship three packs (boosters) of cards, kind of absurdity. While USPS would be $3-5.

jeeez

Really? Can't stick 'em in a padded envelope any more?

I guess I haven't bought cards in way too long.

I should liquidate some of my network equipment and buy some hobby supplies.

Ahh. That makes sense, then.

Yeesh. Yeah okay, that makes way more sense now.

Also tells me to either buy bulk, or aggregate everything together via MyUS for re-shipping.

you can get away with singles in regular envelopes if you put them into team bags and tape them into the envelope so they don't slide around (and possibly tear through the edge)

On one hand I kinda regret throwing away my collection, on the other hand, I just did not have the room.

I still have my small collection, it's just boxes up and buried in a closet somewhere i think.

Get that out of the closet and share!

Hi, I am searching an evil portents, desperate measures for a shadowland deck

Your best bet is Ebay. There are a few EP up there $40-60 and DM pops up from time to time

OK thanks

can someone with more xp and knowledge look this over and see if this is about right?

It's the action rounds broken down by phases and actions available in each

i'm trying to make sure I'm playing right lol

Ahh, that's modern L5R. No more Events phase. So sad.

Can't help you with that, unfortunately.

what means Open in engage actions?

That, too. Some of the formatting looks off. Or things are in the wrong place?

about Proclaim - usually you do it during Dynasty but technically speaking you can Proclaim (once per turn) at any moment where Personality is Recruited on your turn. Example: using Reserve keyword, or any battle action that allows Recruiting eg from Province

Depends which ruleset you're playing with. For a majority of the game's life, you could take Opens in Battle.

Open during battles was until Lotus, they removed it in Samurai 2007

Also need to add that Equip is Open ability

I'm confused on when these open and equip actions may be taken. Also removed open from battle phases and placed dynasty discard and draw at the end

Yeah I copied from the CR