Onyx Lives #rules-questions

As a... general curiosity... outside of the "theme" of the word... is there any mechanical difference between melee and ranged attacks?

If not, can we start to consider making one?

At the moment the only relavence is combining them, and the fact you can't combine ranged/melee.

But that just means if people want to pump up one kind they build their deck around that kind.

Seems that ultimately it's the same thing at the moment.

I think it would be cool for melee and ranged attacks to function differently

Gold pooling was a controversial change but ultimately, I think, a necessary simplification

I didn't find anything in the rulebook about being able to pay 2 less for your in-clan personalities without gaining honour equals to their persaonal honour. Was this rule changed?

Ah

One more question xD

I can now only use the imperial favour to either draw a card or send an unit to their fief?

Send home an attacker

Curious about the Onyx's Winds now

Nice. I'll try to come up with a deck anytime soon 🙂

What about the unaligned ones, then? Do they cost the same as printed?

Got it, thanks!

As a... general curiosity... outside of the "theme" of the word... is there any mechanical difference between melee and ranged attacks?

If not, can we start to consider making one?

At the moment the only relavence is combining them, and the fact you can't combine ranged/melee.

But that just means if people want to pump up one kind they build their deck around that kind.

Seems that ultimately it's the same thing at the moment.

I think it would be cool for melee and ranged attacks to function differently

That's what I thought!

To me, ranged attacks make more sense than melee. I mean, it is a special type of military unit. But shouldn't most military units in Rokugan's setting be able to make some form of melee attacks? I understand there are personalities with zero force but with the exception of the Phoenix Clan in 20F, these are not very common.

I mean, from a design standpoint you could easily remove melee/ranged and just call it an attack...

Or you could easily make melee and ranged actually do mechanically different things.

SO thats why there was such disparity between elemental and maho costs. I was paying 4 gold for each because corrupting during combat was so punishing. Thank you

I was just comparing some of the effects and costs of maho to the elemental spells and found that there were so many awesome 0 cost spells while maho was difficult to set up and pricey, but now it makes sense if I can lower the cost to 0 by corrupting my opponent

I am unsure how to understand new Dragon Box

for example why is there "keyword" additional?

Double tap on Ring uses

can I just use Ring from discard, which wasnt used this turn?

No, it's when you use the ring

EDIT: can't read

Yes

I can read but I am unsuce of every possible way howit interferes

for example i hate this additional keyword

when i see this keyword i see "Effortles counteratack" and i hate it ;>

It basically reads as once/turn use the box as any of the Rings you have in play or the discard

The action or interrupt is to activate the box, the additional action is to use the ring effect

but if i can use it for any discarded ring or any ring in play thats enought /will post sth on card commentary/

Any of your Rings but yeah

yeah

what? even my rings in hand or in my fate deck?

i guess NO 😛

Your Rings in play or discard pile, can't use your opponent's rings

oh that is a sure thing wasn't having a doubt about that part

hm tbh that wasne never a question

Thanks, so it appears it will not work on the Dark Ring of Air then because it is not repeatable. It says "ignoring bow costs" but doesn't give the action repeatable if it is not already.

Actually, now I am confused again. Actions on bowed cards cannot be used unless they are tireless. So if the ring is bowed, it can't be used again right? Something else would need to unbow the ring in between its first use and the second use.

Ah thanks! I figured this out myself about 10 mins ago but you have confirmed which is great. So the stronghold works differently for rings in play, because you have to use this quasi-use of the ring FIRST, and then you can still use the ring later because it is still unbowed. But if the ring is in your hand, you use the ring itself FIRST and then the stronghold lets you use it again from the discard pile. Again I guess this would work in the same turn only if the ring is repeatable.