A player, 4 August 2024 02:53
Ty
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When you flip your stronghold is the bonus gold for 1 turn?
Yes
Ty
Raid battle resolution will destroy attackers but not defenders?
Correct
You're the one taking the risk by Raiding
In the card overwhelm, it says Destroy your target unbowed Personality with the highest force (including ties). Does that mean that if you have personalities tied with the highest force, you have to destroy both of them?
no, as the player of the card, you choose one of your unbowed Personalities with the highest Force to destroy
The reminder is meant to clarify that if 2+ Personalities have highest Force, it doesn't mean that "there is no highest Force Personality" because no single Personality is highest.
Can a response to a battle action be performed even if you don’t have presence in the battlefield? For example, can you interrupt Kanpeki XL’s battle action with Yaheiko Sensei’s Interrupt?
No. Unlike Reactions, Interrupts and Responses are governed by Rules of Presence and Location.
Thank you again!
Does Binasa’s bottom ability stop personalities from bowing to use a card from hand like “Like a Twig”? Is the personality I target, performing the action and since the personality is a “card in the unit” it can’t?
1) There is no more performing 2) no, it only affects printed actions
Thank you!
If you proclaim Matsu Gakuya would you not gain honor and rehonor?
If you are not using the deathseeker oath, you are correct. But that sensei prevents proclaim
Ty!
Can you use “Let go Brother” to target an attachment in discard pile?
Nope, sorry. Unless they explicitly say otherwise, actions can only target cards in play.
That’s what I thought but wasn’t positive. Thanks!
Is the honor loss from Shidare no Oni negated by Mishima Sensei?
Technically, yes. However, this means that a Spider player cannot use the second ability. The same oversight was noticed and corrected on Profaned Temple, another Holding from the same set, and it will be for this one as well. Thanks!
If an opponent uses Overwhelm and ring of earth, can you prevent the destruction of your berserker personality using Yaheiko Sensei?
Who used ring of earth?
You can use Yaheiko and choose not to move, if your target Berserker has the highest force, then they are not destroyed
Now, why would your opponent want to use Earth?
To get a super unit dead
Is that how it works?
Yeah. They shouldn't use it into the Berserker Sensei but yeah
I thought the choice in overwhelmed was of targets
Overwhelmed does not say "if the personalities did not move, destroy the enemy personality with the highest force"
The way I see it, the enemy leader should be able to target two units and then the movement is negated because of earth
They choose and go home. If they did not (choose and go home)...
Yes.
Daisuke is correct; both the targeting and moving home must take place, or else the destruction must happen.
Ok, makes sense. Thanks!
The opponent will still have to destroy their highest personality right?
Yes but you wouldn't use this card unless it was a net benefit
Wait
No, if Yaheiko Sensei is used, That's that, Overwhelmed is negated.
Do you mean the person who played Overwhelmed?
Yes
Oh.
Yes, they would.
Apologies, I thought you meant the Yaheiko Sensei Player.
No worries. I should have clarified. This was a confusing interaction since Ring of Earth is an interrupt so I thought the opponent wouldn’t have a window to use an interrupt after I use RoE.
Yeah. While you cannot Interrupt an Interrupt ITSELF, there is a full back and forth of taking potentially multiple Interrupts to the same non-Interrupt/Response action. Thus, Announce Overwhelmed, Pay (nothing to pay), Choose initial target, Interrupt round: Ring of Earth, Yaheiko, Pass, Pass, Resolve Overwhelmed...
Thank you!
Is “One Must Bow” only playable with compassion or is that just the focus effect portion?
Neither.
To elaborate, the "Compassion" keyword is just the Bushido Virtue associated with the card. It is not the same thing as, and has nothing to do with, the "Compassion" trait/state of "having Compassion".
Ahhh thank you.
If you play rout and destroy an attachment while fields of slaughter is in play…. Do you not gain 2 honor because the destruction occurs after the movement?
Fields of GLORIOUS Slaughter? If so, yes, you're correct.
Ty!
Is it after? Or is it simultaneous? I ask because after, to me, would imply either "then" or a new sentance
You talking about Rout? That's two separate sentences. But even if it weren't, if effects are written "X and Y", Y happens after X.
You had me questioning my whole life for a few min, but no my Gencon print of the card is, in fact, one sentence in an X and Y format. So Y happens after X? Odd, but okay
Oh, huh. Sorry, I just looked at the Oracle. Figured we wouldn't have changed it much; shows what I know. But yes, everything happens in the order written unless it's explicitly simultaneous.
Hi again folks.
My opponent has a Personality with an Oblivious Scout and 2 other attachments. He uses its Engage ability.
I have a Meditating Mind. Let's say I don't want to use its Interrupt to counter the Engage - can I use the Battle ability to bow the Scout along with the other 2 attachments since I already addressed the clause that I need to target the scout first? Or do I only get to bow it and not the other 2 cards? Thanks.
You cannot use Meditating Mind's Battle action to bow the Oblivious Scout because you need to target the Scout first, and MM targets the Personality (targeting a unit is the same as targeting the Personality)
I learned this much to my regret at Gen Con
It just wouldn't be a high-level L5R tournament without some players learning how certain cards worked for the very first time. :3
I am not allowed to comment lol
I feel seen
Does Yaheiko sensei’s -2F and Elite only works if the personality was bowed by a fear effect?
Yes. And they have to be opposed and the Fear had to have come from another player's action.