Rules for 3 January 2004

Your Rules for Monday, January 3, 2004

Rules Question

If you are a Unicorn player, and you use Suboto's ability to bring him into play using his ability, may you reduce his cost by 2?

No. I asked Jeff. You only get the Honor Gain / Reduce by 2 Gold option when bringing a Personality into play during the standard process in the Dynasty Phase.

bowing and bowed cards

the point is that bowed cards can be targeted by actions that have an effect that bows and sends home an effect that bows and cannot straighten and generally that it is legal to target cards with actions that bow them no matter if they are bowed or not.

It depends on the card. Nothing about the effect, "Bow the target," restricts who you can target with it. There may be a targeting restriction that says, "Target an unbowed X" though. They restricts you.

There is no rule preventing you from playing an Action when one or all of its effects would be negated / fail.

I am reffering to Tsuruchi Tokaro,Iyaken and all of his merry band of men in tights. I would like a fully explanotary answer please because I have to explain to some players.

Well, the bread-and-butter of the explanation is that playing a card that makes a player lose honor isn't illegal to point at a Shadowlands Player - it just fails to make them lose honor.

You can Shame a Horde player's Dishonored Goblin Wizard if it makes you feel good, but the effect it generates fails.

Targeting restrictions are a different kettle of fish.

Also if this comes legal is GOZOKU legal in targeting a bowed card

Yes. It always has been.

and if it is why there is a clarification in both Rubies of Iuchiban concerning which ruby can bow who and in what condition.

Ruby of Iuchiban Nonexperienced can target anyone, bowed or unbowed. It does not specify that its target need be bowed or unbowed.

Ruby of Iuchiban Experienced says, "You must target a bowed Personality,"

That's pretty explicit.

Also if this is legal many questions come up and which are. Is Temple of the NK legal in targeting a dishonored personality

Yes. You can target a Dishonored personality with it, but it won't accomplish much in most cases.

and if it is what happens,is unrequited love legal targeting a bowed/dishonered pers and what happens if it is?

Unrequited Love says, "Target an unbowed Human Personality." You can't target a bowed Personality with it.

Targeting a Dishonored Personality with it is fine. They can either bow and get restored to honor, or remain unbowed. If he chooses to stay unbowed the Dishonoring fails, since he's already dishonored, and his controller lose honor equal to the card's printed Personal Honor, as per Unrequited Love's text.

Basically, you can't play the action legally without meeting - targeting - requirements: like targeting a Bowed Personality with Unrequited Love.

You can't play the action legally if parts of - paying the cost - can't be done: like trying to pay the cost of Direct Assault with a unit containing already-bowed cards.

You CAN play an action if you meet the costs and targeting requirements, but some of the effects obvious won't work - like playing Shame against a Shadowlands Player or Palm Strike against a Bowed Personality.

Tangen sensei/ tsuruchi tech

I am a scorpion player with tangen sensei. My opponent plays tsuruchi technique (the battle action) on one of my cards (foll-pers). Can I redirect that action to cards controlled by him (foll-pers) in this battle? Why? Thanks.

When redirecting an Action, you are bound by the Action's Player's original targeting restrictions, rather than your own. That means you can't redirect his Tsuruchi Technique against cards in his Army because he couldn't have directed it there when he played it in the first place.

That's what the first paragraph on Page 74 of the Diamond Edition Rulebook is trying to say, anyway.

He couldn't aim it at his own army because it told him to target an "opposing" card, which means it had to be a card opposing cards he controlled at the current battle.

That should cover everything from Monday. If I missed your question, please repost it with the flag [RULES] as part of your Clear and Distinct subject line. I'll get back to you at the first opportunity.