Rules for 2 December 2004

Martin Lund, sent 6 December 2004 to the l5r-ccg mailing list, the l5r-useful list

A rules digest from the L5R CCG rules team, copied from the mailing list archive for Oracle of the Void. The askers' names are left out. Rulings are as they stood on this date; later rulings, the rulebooks and the Rules Archive may differ.

Your Rules for Thursday, December 2, 2004

Uso sensei

+Uso sensei vs Nizomi I have uso sensei, my opponent reacts to my duels with asahina nizomi. Does my test of might destroy the loser? same for steel on steel?

Nizomi converts any "destroy the loser" effects of a duel into "bow the loser" effects - regardless of whether they came from the duel-starting Action, or were added to it by an outside effect like Uso.

All Uso Sensei would add is an additional "bow the loser" effect.

+Uso sensei vs Daizu/feign death Does my steel on steel destroy the loser two times, one per own text, another one per uso sensei?

You'd destroy the loser twice. Normally the second destruction effect would simply fail. This can help make sure Daizu - stays - dead.

+Kakita vs smoke and mirrors I have Kakita dueling another personality. If I react to my first focus/strike opportunity with smoke (if legal) can I still focus with 1-3 cards in my next opportunity or must I strike?

Yes. You still have not focused in this duel (you played a reaction instead), so you aren't violating the "may only focus once" restriction.

On: Kakita

Can I draw two cards when react with smoke&mirrors with a duelist instead of focusing the first time?

No. You draw two cards AFTER you first Focus. If you play Smoke and Mirrors, you don't focus. That's what "instead" means.

Rules again

4F Scorpion Personality gets a Shosuro Infiltrator via Few Against Many. Recruiting Drive gets played. In battle I use Shosuro Infiltrator's battle action. Can I now really attach him again for zero gold and repeat this stuff like a trillion times?

Yes. Make a trillion 3/1 Scorpion Clan Samurai

I have Paneki ex2 and his Egg in play. May I now use two of my opponent's cards?

Yes.

May I play his Traveling Ronin? If so, are they discarded immediately because of the last sentence on Paneki?

Not sure what that last sentence on Paneki is supposed to mean - Where and When, or just Where. I'll ask Jeff.

Shattered Focus Is its action effective against focus cards with effects that kick in "when revealed"? (Kharmic Strike, False Trail, The Fortunes Smile, ...)

Since this says, "after focuses are revealed," anything that happens "when focuses are revealed" would happen before you have a chance to discard them.

If Morisue uses her ability, how many cards may the opponent bow if his HoV is in effect?

For any card that gives multiple Personalities each a penalty at once, hand of Vengence will bow one card for each Personality that received a Chi penalty.

Mirotai takes his action, looses his trait and goes to war. Does he count for the requirement of Rain of Death since Tactician is still printed on him although he lost it?

Mirotai has the "Printed Tactician Trait" even though he does not currently have Tactician. Hence, he counts for the "Formed By" requirement, but can't perform the Tactical Battle Action.

Isawa Washici -- Experienced?

So he himself is not experienced, but he is the "Soul of" an experienced personality.

The question is: can he be retrieved from your Dynasty deck with Boundless Sight (Search your Dynasty deck for an Experienced Personality and refill this Province with that card, face-up)?

No. This is in the L5R FAQ at http://l5r.alderac.com/ccg/faq.html under Section Two: Clarifying the Rules.

Rule of Obvious Legality/Cardinal Rule -Jeff

Anyhow, if Kurako's ability can be used while bowed, can we now use Crane Tattoo's ability while bowed?

Kurako's ability can't be used while bowed. It CAN be used while she is dead. Cards are neither bowed nor unbowed while they are out of play.

Rule of Obvious Legality/Cardinal Rule -Jeff

If a personality with a Crane Tattoo is killed whilst bowed, can I use the Crane Tattoo's reaction.

No.

If not, why not?

By MRP, this reaction is used when the Personality dies, not after. The tattooed Personality is not in the discard pile when the trigger occurs.

Does Akasha Non-Exp bow for her Ranged Attack?

If so, why?

If not, please change the archive.

Bowing is not a cost of her ranged attack ability. Forwarded to Zen. The rulebook has changed since she was printed, and this issue has no legacy rule that says to play the card by the rules that existed at its time of printing (like those that exist for Political actions, older cost-effect templates, and obsolete game definitions such as "your"). The archive is no longer correct.

And an aside: Jeff, could you please answer questions clearly rather than making cryptic remarks that people have to puzzle through?

I will try. The thing is, the whole question was asked based on a mistaken premise. That tends to invalidate a question and make the answer to it meaningless or, worse, confusing.

That should cover everything for Thursday. If I missed your question, please repost it with the flag [RULES] as part of your Clear and Distinct subject line. I'll get back to you at the first opportunity.