Shiba Sansesuke and Hida Mimori

L5R CCG Rules board, 26 July 2012 to 28 July 2012

A topic from AEG's L5R CCG Rules forum, copied for Oracle of the Void from a copy of the forum saved in October 2015, so pages it didn't save are missing. Players' names are left out; the rules officials are named. Rulings are as they stood on these dates; later rulings, the rulebooks and the Rules Archive may differ.

A player, 26 July 2012

This situation showed up tonight and I wanted to get a concrete answer:

Player A has Isawa Mitsuko and Shiba Sansesuke at a battlefield. Player B has Hida Mimori defending at that battlefield.

Mitsuko has been bowed earlier in the battlefield. Player B uses Mimori targetting Mitsuko.

If Player A uses Sansesuke's reaction, will Sansesuke be destroyed or not?

Is Sansesuke a legal target?

Relevant text:

Shiba Sansesuke: Reaction: When an action would target your Shugenja at Sansesuke's location, bow Sansesuke: The action targets him instead, if legal.

Hida Mimori: Battle: Target a bowed enemy card: Destroy it.

Jon Palmer (rules official), 28 July 2012

This situation showed up tonight and I wanted to get a concrete answer:

Player A has Isawa Mitsuko and Shiba Sansesuke at a battlefield. Player B has Hida Mimori defending at that battlefield.

Mitsuko has been bowed earlier in the battlefield. Player B uses Mimori targetting Mitsuko.

If Player A uses Sansesuke's reaction, will Sansesuke be destroyed or not?

Is Sansesuke a legal target?

Relevant text:

Shiba Sansesuke: Reaction: When an action would target your Shugenja at Sansesuke's location, bow Sansesuke: The action targets him instead, if legal.

Hida Mimori: Battle: Target a bowed enemy card: Destroy it.

Because the retargeting is an effect, and Sanesuke is bowed before the retargeting happens, Mimori can legally target him, and Sanesuke will be destroyed.