Shameful Injury (EE) + Permanent Force Bonus

L5R CCG Rules board, 29 April 2012 to 30 April 2012

A topic from AEG's L5R CCG Rules forum, copied for Oracle of the Void from a copy of the forum saved in October 2015, so pages it didn't save are missing. Players' names are left out; the rules officials are named. Rulings are as they stood on these dates; later rulings, the rulebooks and the Rules Archive may differ.

A player, 29 April 2012

Referring to this ruling previously.

viewtopic.php?f=59&t=85455&p=1127316

So, as per the Emperor Edition text,

Battle: Even if you control no units at the current battlefield, target a Personality: Negate all current and new Force bonuses and penalties on him from actions.

Does this mean that Shameful Injury shuts down permanent force bonus? Such as Arrival of Obsidian Champion and RItual of Summoning?

Alex Jones (rules official), 30 April 2012

Referring to this ruling previously.

viewtopic.php?f=59&t=85455&p=1127316

So, as per the Emperor Edition text,

Battle: Even if you control no units at the current battlefield, target a Personality: Negate all current and new Force bonuses and penalties on him from actions.

Does this mean that Shameful Injury shuts down permanent force bonus? Such as Arrival of Obsidian Champion and RItual of Summoning?

The previous wording on Shameful Injury dates from a time when the negation rules were slightly different. Under the current rules, the old and new wordings are equivalent, but the new wording is much shorter.

Shameful Injury suppresses existing permanent force bonuses (from actions) until the end of the turn.